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Originally Posted by Cammarrah
Seems like all the OP wanted to know is if sway bars would benefit him and now a vendor wont stop posting about non-related things.
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Sorry top have offended you. Here is the OP.
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Originally Posted by Inuyashas_Brother
A bit of background: I have installed new high performance tires and I’m planning on getting lowered springs. I enjoy spirited driving but do not plan on autocrossing. I have been trying to educate myself on the issue of understeer and how sway bars work, and from what I found it seems that understeer is only a problem if you push your car past “7/10s” which is going beyond spirited driving into autocrossing levels.
Therefore, for my driving style, it seems lowering springs, in addition to the grip from my new high performance tires, are enough to provide me the additional handling benefits, and a sway bar would add little to no benefit.
Is my analysis correct or did I miss something?
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We are replying directly within the context of the OP. The answer is yes the OP did miss something. He missed building his modified suspension from the ground up. Based on the description of his driving style, the foundational bushes and his performance tires may be as far as he needs to go with his suspension modifications. If he chooses to add lowering coils and sway bars they will perform better with a more stable foundation.
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Originally Posted by Cammarrah
Obviously sway bar upgrades exist for a reason, so if you disagree, move on. Its already been proven that they work, with video, and obviously GM changed them for a reason like they stated in their press release which you said they didnt.
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Here is exactly what I said,"
GM made a running change to the weakest link in the 5th Gen chassis starting in January. They partially filled some of the voids in the sub-frame bushes. Now ask yourself why would GM make a running change to the sub-frame bushes as opposed to the sway bars? It would have been easier and cheaper to change the size and ratio of the sway bars. GM could have made a big deal out of the sway bars in their marketing. Beating your chest about our new improved sub-frame bushes is no where as sexy, but it was a critically important change. They made the change because the foundation of the vehicle is more important than the sway bars. They made the change to address the weakest link."
I said, they addressed the foundational sub-frame bushes in January of 2011. The change in sways follows an already in production sub-frame bush change in January 2011. Taking it one step further the geometry of the ZL1 LCA and sway bar move the endlink out to the hub making it far more efficient than the current setup. The fact is, GM made the change in the sub-frame bush first for good reason. They addressed the weakest link in the 5th Gen suspension.
Pedders has a full range of bits for the 5th Gen from bushes, to bars to coils and coilovers. A client can buy any parts they see fit and in any order from Pedders or any other company. That said, we like to see our clients get the biggest bang for the buck possible. We have a large number of clients that are thrilled with only the foundational bush inserts and a Pedders spec alignment. They deliver improved stability and reduced understeer. Should a Street I client choose further upgrades, they will all perform better.
I see you are a new member of Camaro5. I am glad you are here and welcome your input. Once again, I am sorry I offended you.