On gains, 3 different shops tested them, 3 different cars (bone stock or as near bone stock as possible...none had tunes) 3 different dynos, in 3 different locations in the country and all found 20 rwhp and between 25-28 RWTQ. You can also order the 1"version if you wish...same price. We have NOT done the 1" testing to see if in faact it will add more TQ as we have attributed the gains to the 30-35* temp drops. If anyone local wants to spend a few hours on the dyno for before and after let me know, but they are in stock now. We also have a version of the plenum spacer we need to test on the same LLT based car.