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kjkjr27 · 05-09-2012, 01:20 PM

I get it, learned about the right hand rule in physics. Sadly that was about the only thing I learned in physics, o well. I bet that explanation will def help out some people.

BowtieBelle · 05-09-2012, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SC2150

Belle gets it done better than some of the guys!!! Girls kick butt!!!

NFERGY 2011 RJT · 05-09-2012, 08:46 PM

ok got to ask what is Black ICE-olator and what does it do?

KMPrenger · 05-09-2012, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by NFERGY 2011 RJT

ok got to ask what is Black ICE-olator and what does it do?

I'll bite....

keeps the intake manifold from getting hot and heating up the incomming air. So thus, the air stays cools and performance is increased....proven to provide very nice gains in the midrange and upper midrange rpms.

pgustavson · 05-10-2012, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by KMPrenger

I'll bite....

keeps the intake manifold from getting hot and heating up the incomming air. So thus, the air stays cools and performance is increased....proven to provide very nice gains in the midrange and upper midrange rpms.

Plus I'd think the increase in runner length probably adds some benefit as well...

hapisok · 05-10-2012, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by pgustavson

Plus I'd think the increase in runner length probably adds some benefit as well...

agreed, but the TQ gain is minimal at just under 1/2 an inch in comparison to 1". with the thinner insulators. the gains primarily come from the intake air temps being lowered with the thinner insulators. the thicker insulators provide both, air temp isolation from engine heat and the longer runner length which shifts the TQ band to the left.

pgustavson · 05-10-2012, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by hapisok

agreed, but the TQ gain is minimal at just under 1/2 an inch in comparison to 1". with the thinner insulators. the gains primarily come from the intake air temps being lowered with the thinner insulators. the thicker insulators provide both, air temp isolation from engine heat and the longer runner length which shifts the TQ band to the left.

I agree as well, thanks for fleshing things out. The left-shift in the torque band is something we definitely need. I can't wait to install mine.

SC2150 · 05-10-2012, 08:30 AM

On gains, 3 different shops tested them, 3 different cars (bone stock or as near bone stock as possible...none had tunes) 3 different dynos, in 3 different locations in the country and all found 20 rwhp and between 25-28 RWTQ. You can also order the 1"version if you wish...same price. We have NOT done the 1" testing to see if in faact it will add more TQ as we have attributed the gains to the 30-35* temp drops. If anyone local wants to spend a few hours on the dyno for before and after let me know, but they are in stock now. We also have a version of the plenum spacer we need to test on the same LLT based car.

BowtieBelle · 05-10-2012, 08:56 AM

All I gotta say is that when I went to pass someone on the highway yesterday it felt like a jet engine kicked in at about 4k RPMs. Threw me back in my seat. Loveeeeee itttt!

nyrfan · 05-10-2012, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by SC2150

On gains, 3 different shops tested them, 3 different cars (bone stock or as near bone stock as possible...none had tunes) 3 different dynos, in 3 different locations in the country and all found 20 rwhp and between 25-28 RWTQ. You can also order the 1"version if you wish...same price. We have NOT done the 1" testing to see if in faact it will add more TQ as we have attributed the gains to the 30-35* temp drops. If anyone local wants to spend a few hours on the dyno for before and after let me know, but they are in stock now. We also have a version of the plenum spacer we need to test on the same LLT based car.

Wait, there are now 2 different sized ice-olators? Also a plenum spacer? When, add me to that list!

nyrfan · 05-10-2012, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by BowtieBelle

All I gotta say is that when I went to pass someone on the highway yesterday it felt like a jet engine kicked in at about 4k RPMs. Threw me back in my seat. Loveeeeee itttt!

You have almost the exact engine mods as me, so you really need to consider adding the RX breather. It's a cheap mod but I swear that little thing made my car feel SO much better! Here is my post:

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=221773

bmorecam · 05-10-2012, 11:01 AM

so....let me get this staright...so tracy is now going to sell 25mm insulator and plenum spacer!? uhhhhh kkkkay..

lscamaro · 05-10-2012, 11:11 AM

^^^^ this.

motley1987 · 05-10-2012, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by nyrfan

You have almost the exact engine mods as me, so you really need to consider adding the RX breather. It's a cheap mod but I swear that little thing made my car feel SO much better! Here is my post:

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=221773

Oh for God's sake! Will the mods never end? Worst thing I ever did was find this forum! Looks like I'll be looking this up next.

05-09-2012, 01:20 PM	#57
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05-09-2012, 08:46 PM	#59
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05-10-2012, 08:56 AM	#65
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05-10-2012, 08:30 AM	#64
SC2150 Account Suspended Drives: 2012 Camaro RS, RX supercharged Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bradenton, FL Posts: 6,063	On gains, 3 different shops tested them, 3 different cars (bone stock or as near bone stock as possible...none had tunes) 3 different dynos, in 3 different locations in the country and all found 20 rwhp and between 25-28 RWTQ. You can also order the 1"version if you wish...same price. We have NOT done the 1" testing to see if in faact it will add more TQ as we have attributed the gains to the 30-35* temp drops. If anyone local wants to spend a few hours on the dyno for before and after let me know, but they are in stock now. We also have a version of the plenum spacer we need to test on the same LLT based car.

05-10-2012, 11:01 AM	#68
bmorecam Account Suspended Drives: jealous vendors mad!! HAHA!! Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: CYBERGMONSTER@GMAIL.COM Posts: 3,658 View My Garage	so....let me get this staright...so tracy is now going to sell 25mm insulator and plenum spacer!? uhhhhh kkkkay..