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Originally Posted by stovt001
And the 2011 Mustang will counter further still, and in my opinion will retake the lead. GM can't up the power to compensate. The only solution is to lose weight, and apparently that is hard to do with the platform. Rock - GM - Hard Place. Hopefully they will find a way. While they're at it, a minor nip/tuck to the overhangs and a lowering of the belt line could nicely improve visibility and reduce perceived mass. Then again, by that point you're looking closer to a full redesign. At the very least, I hope for some decent seats - and by the way, I just reread the Motor Trend Camaro V6 vs Hyundai comparison, and they also mention that anyone under 250 lbs will slide around "in the esses." So it isn't just me! I really do want the V8, and the Camaro is gorgeous and so much more unique than the Mustang, but I'm just gonna need something that is more fun in the turns. Sigh...
Anyway, regarding gator's assessment of the shifter, in my opinion it isn't the size as much as the shape that is the problem It was not very comfortable. Of course, the simple solution is the Hurst shifter so I'm not letting that bother me at all.
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I have to disagree with you there. The idea that GM is done with engine development and can't upgrade the car to stay ahead is silly. The mustang will gain some weight if they change to 6 speed transmissions and a bigger DOHC motor. If the mustang is ~200 lbs lighter than the Camaro at that point, the Camaro would only need about 30-40 more hp to stay ahead, or even a simple rear end gear change. GM could even pull a desperation move like Ford did and equip the car with an aftermarket style CAI from the factory, taking the Camaro to 440 hp off the showroom floor. It will certainly be a lot closer than Camaro fans would like, but the game is definitely not over if the 5.0L makes it.