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Originally Posted by NightmareZL1
GM makes crap products. You would know If you have driven and audi S or a BMW M, or even simple infiniti G37. Hell, I had a lexus that was perfect from 0 to 38000 miles - only 3 oil changes and zero warranty work. That lexus purred like new the day i traded it in. Those are relatively low priced cars that have impecable build quality - initial and long term.
GM makes Fast "crap" I was raised GM, and I love GM (currently have corvette and ZL1), but I will not recommend GM to anyone who wants engineering quality.
For example, I have owned 6 corvettes, all have had tons of issues, especially build materials. engines have all been awesome. The best made of the bunch was a 2006 Z06 and it had electrical issues, repeated motor mount issues, roof delamination, drive shaft coupler failures, squeaky brakes, loose trim pieces, seats that pogo-ed back and forth, zero lumbar support, the most horrible in dash Navigation system, valves that liked to fall into the engine and lifters that fail and destroy your motor at 27000 miles (that happened to me)
GM makes crap. No argument. But, I like their crap, it has style, gets attention, and makes me smile - When it is not in the service department for repairs. warranties are great, but it still sucks to drop it off at the dealer every month. That is a common theme with GM products. And a good reason to rag on them.
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That is unfortunate. I've never really had major issues with any GM vehicles I've owned. 2005 Chevy Colorado had 0 issues. 2010 Camaro had 0 issues (until I started heavily moding it), 2013 ZL1 only issue is a creaking chair. HOWEVER I do find it extremely annoying and for a $60k car I expect my seat to not sound like a rocking chair..
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Originally Posted by 1sikss
sounds like zl1 owners are just hating cause the z/28 is the better car no matter what that car looks way sicker and more aggressive than the zl1.... and plus ppl havent even drove it how can everyone start comparing... either way z/28 is gonna be at the top of the camaros
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Looks are subjective, in my personal opinion I strongly dislike the rear of the new Camaros (2014+) and the hood vent on the Z/28 looks like something you would get from Autozone (my opinion), the small size just seems odd to me. The ZL1 heat extractor/vent looks like it belongs.