[Gizmo]

You're wasting your time. For the most part, you really can't say anything nice about other cars here or you become one of the bad guys.

I think it's hilarious seeing grown men call a 700 hp car a "hell kitty". It's not funny, it's not original, and last I checked 700 hp was pretty fawking amazing. I give props to that car but I don't lose any sleep over knowing it has more hp than my ZL1. Why? Because I love my ZL1 for what it is. Like you said, you can love your ZL1 and still respect other cars.

Originally Posted by Iron Lung Jimmy

It's fine to love the ZL1. There are plenty of reasons to love it.

Where things start to sound whiney, though, is when ZL1 love leads to petty sniping and the denial of the obvious.

Here is the obvious - the Hellcat is a f*^king awesome car. It may not be to your taste, but nothing pleases everybody.

Can it do everything well? No. Might it fall apart in five years? Maybe, but I doubt it. Are people paying too much for it? I certainly think so.

But all that is beside the point. It is a f*^king awesome car... everybody knows it... and to deny it is awesome makes a person look kind of silly. Dodge set out to make a street brawler like the world has never seen before and hit it out of the park. They even surprised themselves.

So just admit that the Hellcat is awesome... that it absolutely nailed the segment it was aiming for... but that you prefer the better all around versatility of the ZL1.

Awesomeness is not a zero sum game. Both cars can be awesome. That the Hellcat is awesome doesn't make the ZL1 less so.