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Old 09-27-2009, 09:48 PM   #57
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Originally Posted by clark17357 View Post
Hi Dragon,

Here is a thread that discusses the blown Ford 5.4 motor and its specs. Does this help?

http://www.teamshelby.com/forums/ind...6919&hl=forged

Jim
It does, thank you!! I've also been educated by a GT500-guy that the engine is forged throughout. Given that the LSA has those oil-jets pointed at the bottom of every piston, and the piston's dished, no-"hot-spot" design....I think we're fully aftermarket-able. But I'm no engineer, so I'm comfortable with being wrong.

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Originally Posted by Jinx View Post
With these statement, (maybe Im nit-picking) the LSA seems more geared and refined for the Caddy application. With a car like the Z28, I would think the designers would want the things they tried to omit with their design detail with the LSA. Words like a SOFT, SMOOTHER, QUIETER.....isnt what we are thinking when we want to sit idle with a SS with GMPP exhaust next to us.

Im still thinking that an engine made between the LSA and LS9 is in order. GM knows these car will be ran harder on the average than a Caddy. Plus i would hate to think that they would let there own "GMPP" miss out on warrantied upgrades to contend with FRPP upgrades on a GT500. I have faith that GM is smart to do this. They have been so far with the details.

If they push out L99s JUST for automatic Camaros to avoid gas guzzler tax, I believe they would at least expect and prepare for the stress and expectations that the Camaro's breed of customer will put on a Z28.

Making a "LS8" or "mongoose" with forged material (not titanium) and having its power output between 556hp and 600hp would be a good benchmark and insurance against a crippling load of warranty claim. Do it right the first time. At least put it on par with the strength of the GT500's 5.4L and boost its power output a little above to add to the snake's insult.
No, you're not nitpicking at all -- you're absolutely right. The LSA was built with refinement at the forefront of their minds. I don't think that translates into reduced reliability, though...especially considering the testing results in the article.

They could take the money spent on refining it and invest that into forged pieces...and then up the boost a tiny bit for factory-release. My concern is the associated engineering and validation costs...do they want to spend all that for a likely one-off motor? (The GenV V8s are around the corner, remember...)

Ironically...LeftLane blog wrote an article in 2007...hard to believe it's been that long...But thus far, they've been accurate...And it mentions an LS8...as well as an LST..........

http://www.leftlanenews.com/a-detail...tor-plans.html

I think there's also a possibility of the Gen V engines making it into a 2012-released Z28. Supercharged or not...I consider this to be the ideal route.

BUT...nobody knows, and that's the beauty...hehe, We're going to go through this process alllllll over again.........
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