[Junkman2008]

Originally Posted by Mr CLuTcH

Thx. But Junkman took a nap, he's going to answer them with pictures when he wakes up. He'll be back on probably at some odd time during the nite lol.

It's weird time O-thirty and I'm baaaaaaack! I started writing this at 2:20 AM. Look at what time it posted. You had better read it ALL!

Okay, this will be a great thread for people who want to know the nitty-gritty with detailing for the anal. If you follow this thread, we have something in common! Now lets answer some questions!

Originally Posted by Mr CLuTcH

I bought a blower from Sears(my job), people think I'm crazy for blow-drying my car. My family just laughed and shook they're head. But as you said Junkman, the less you have to physically touch the paint, the less you can scratch or damage it. Man, write a damn book or video series. I agree with your philosophy totally, but help me understand it a little more. I want my paint to look like yours after I get my PC, polish and wax.

This was funny!

Originally Posted by Mr CLuTcH

Now let me ask some questions......

1. If you advise everyone to touch they're paint minimally, at what point in the detailing process are we allowed to touch the paint?

The better question is when should you NOT touch the paint. That time would be when the car is dusty or dirty. Don't ever swipe your finger or your hand across the paint when ANY dirt is on the paint. All that does is grind the dirt into the paint causing scratches and swirls. Understand this. Scratches happen as soon as you handle the paint while the car is dirty. Swirls are caused when you REPEATEDLY keep making this mistake. That's why you'll notice that as you start this swirl and scratch removing process that I demonstrate in my videos, the surface scratches will come out noticably faster than the swirls. The swirls take much longer because they are DEEPER into the clear coat than the surface scratches. It takes a while to get them out because it took you a while for you to put them in.

Originally Posted by Mr CLuTcH

2. I washed my car today,...took me a couple of hours. I did the 2 bucket method, works nice and makes perfect sense. Blow-dried it to get the bulk of the water off. Afterwards, once it was dry I came back with some McGuire detailing spray. Upon wiping the car down with the spray within the light, I noticed EXACTLY what you showed us in your video, SWIRL MARKS. They were very faint, but you could damn sure see them when you **** your head to the side from the right angle. Junkman, I don't like it. Tell me,.....are these swirl marks removable? Like TOTALLY?

Those swirl marks are TOTALLY removable!!! The question is, are you dedicated enough to totally remove them?

Here's what you Camaro owners have working to your advantage. Your cars are relatively new. You don't have 6 years of "doing it WRONG" kind of damage on your cars yet (at least I hope not). Thus, the most you will have to do is removing 2 years of damage which is a lot easier than someone working on a 12 year old paint job. Can it be totally removed? Look at these pictures.

Ten year old Ford with massive swirls:










Not one person on this forum should have damage like this on their car. If I can fix this, then your paint should be a cake walk. Here's the after shots:








Let's get down close to the paint and look through the clear coat to the reflection of the halogen lights that I use to see the damage:




Now, let's take it outside and look at that paint up close in natural light:






Looking through the clear coat again:




The super-duper close-up:




That's not all. Let's look at some more paint damage. A 11 year old Corvette:




After the repair:




An 11 year old Corvette that was backed into! It has never been waxed the entire time this owner has owned it (1 owner car):




After the repair:




I could do this for pages but I think you get the idea. Sure, I have experience doing this so I can get these kind of results easily. However, I have created video after video showing anyone who wants to learn how to do this. After a little bit of dedicated practice, you too can begin removing your much easier swirls from your own paint.

Originally Posted by Mr CLuTcH

What happens to the swirl marks once you use the PC and polish on them? TThey disappear, but are you really annihilating them or hiding them with polish?

The Junkman does not hide paint damage! The process I show you is removing the damage from the clear coat by shaving the clear coat down, past the damage in it. That's right folks, in order to remove the damage, you have to remove some of the clear coat too (the part of the clear coat that contains the damage). Now here the good news. The PC-7424XP is NOT going to remove a lot of clear coat, and it is not going to remove any clear coat very fast. In fact, the PC is very slow at removing paint damage and is why it is such a safe machine to use to do so. This is also why it takes much longer to repair the damage to the clear coat.

There are machines out there that will do this much faster. Two that you will see mentioned are the Makita rotary and the Flex orbital. A rotary machine will wipe all the clear coat AND paint in one spot off the car in seconds. That's why you should NEVER attempt to use one unless you are a professional detailer. The Flex orbital is a little bit safer than a rotary but can also wipe out your paint. That's why as a novice to polishing with a machine, you should NEVER let someone talk you into using one of these polishers. Consider this, if someone talks you into trying one of these machines and you screw up your paint, who is going to pay to have the car repainted? They were free with their advice but you'll quickly find out that they won't be as quick with their wallets. Don't believe the hype, stick with the much safer PC and take your time correcting your paint. This isn't a race and you won't end up at the paint booth.

Originally Posted by Mr CLuTcH

3. I have some scratches on my car, none really deep, but like 3 that are easily visible, they're a level above being faint, they're visible, will the PC with the yellow pad and swirl and haze remover actually remove them?

There is absolutely no way for me to answer that question without seeing the damage myself. What you as a novice considers deep, and I as someone with experience considers deep may be two different things. So the answer could be yes or no. One thing I will say is get the idea of using the yellow pad out of your mind. Only use it when I direct you to because it does damage to the paint that takes time to learn how to remove. The orange pad also does damage to the paint but it is a lot easier to fix using FMP. As a matter of fact, I may direct you to use FMP with the yellow pad instead of using SHR. The cut will be different and a lot more manageable.

Originally Posted by Mr CLuTcH

4. When are we suppose to use setting 6 or 7 on the PC?

There is no setting of 7, and you should never use a setting of 6. There may come a time when 6 is feasible but while learning how to do paint correction, NEVER use the setting of 6. You need to learn how to allow the polisher to work for you. That means that you have got to learn how to apply the correct amount of pressure so that you don't interfere with what the polisher is designed to do. Applying to much pressure interferes with what the polisher is doing and makes the polisher less effective. It also causes you to work more which will end up causing you to become fatigued. After that happens, you get sloppy and it's all down hill after that.

Originally Posted by Mr CLuTcH

5. Once all of my swirl marks and scratches are gone,....how do I prevent myself from adding more? I won't try to spray detailing spray on the car if there is any DIRT on the car. If there is DIRT on the car, you MUST wash it. But if there is "light dust", a less harmful form of dirt, I will remove it with the California Duster, then wipe it down with detailing spray. But Junkman, my question is, while I'm wiping the car down with detailing spray, how do I prevent adding swirl marks? I mean, how did they get there in the beginning? Wiping down with a ruff rag, wiping down with a dirty rag, and wiping in a circle. Is there anything else I missed????

Eighty percent of your swirls come from improper washing. The other 20% come from drying and wiping on the car while it is dirty. How do you avoid reintroducing swirls into the paint? WASH THE CAR USING THE TWO BUCKET SYSTEM! It is totally common sense once you understand why you do the 2-bucket wash. I have also posted a thread on wiping dust off the car using a waterless washing product. Follow the instructions I give in those videos! Last of all, follow this rule: The less you touch the paint, the less opportunity there is for you to scratch the paint. Period. One of those times is the drying process.

Here's how I dry my car. After the final rinse, I turn the water down so that it is flowing slowly. I remove my nozzle and allow the water to gently flow over the car, starting at the top and working my way down. This causes all of the small beads of water to pool and run off the car in puddles. This process removes a great deal of the water that was on the car.

Next, I use an electric Sears leaf blower that I paid $29 for to blow off a majority of the remaining water. This also allow me to blow water out of the cracks and crevices where water hides and streaks the car after you start driving it (that is very annoying). By the time I'm done with the pooling and leaf blower processes, there is very, very little water left on the car to remove. That means that I will be rubbing on the car a lot less than I would be if I didn't use these two processes. I have eliminated a major part of the scratching process by doing this. You should do the same.

Two things to consider about this process. DO NOT use a gas powered leaf blower. It will spew crap from the machine all over your paint. Secondly, if you do this outside, make sure that you totally soak the area down around the car so that you don't blow dust and dirt upon the car. That includes wetting the grass down around the car also. I do my routine in my garage so I don't have to worry about dust in the air or disturbed dust on the ground landing on the car.

Now, the towels that you use to remove the remaining water off the car is also an important part of the equation. If the towels you use have a tag sewn into the seam, they are garbage. If they were made in China, they are garbage (the best microfiber towels come from Korea or the USA). If they came out of Pep Boys, Auto Zone, Advance auto or some place similar, they're garbage. Check out these pictures.






Now here's what happened. I took my car in to get some new tires. I distinctly told the guy putting the new tires on the car to NOT worry about any fingerprints that he put on the car. I told him NOT to remove them by wiping on the car. I go back to check on the car just as he was finishing up and he was scrubbing his grubby little fingerprints off the door. The first picture shows how much damage he did. Needless to say, I chewed on his butt for a few minutes for not following directions. Like I said before, I'm pretty anal about my paint.

The second picture shows what it looked like after hitting it with some FMP and the white pad. Because the damage was on top of my clear coat after I had already corrected the entire car, the damage came out easily without having to use the orange pad and SHR. After you get your paint corrected, you should never have to go back to the orange pad and SHR unless you continue to wash the car wrong or you are constantly wiping on the car incorrectly using crappy towels.

Originally Posted by Mr CLuTcH

Man, I really appreciate your help Junkman. You have some damn deep knowledge of this stuff and I follow your words exactly as they're spoken, that's because I want the same results you've achieved. I awakened out of the matrix, I see the swirls! I see the incorrect technique! I dunno if it's possible for a daily driver, but hell,....I'm going to try to keep my paint perfect. But I just don't want to add more swirl marks after I remove them. That's my fear. I wipe with a clean microfiber towel, and in one direction. Wipe it down, check ya rag, wipe it down, check ya rag. lol.

You have officially been unplugged from the Matrix and I shall now place upon you the name of Neo!