Onstar Terms Amendment***

[BlackPlague]

not sure if this is a re-post but i just got an e-mail from onstar for a terms amendment, a little pissed
Guess I'm done with OnStar - The Vette Barn Forum - A Community for Corvette Lovers

^^^this link sums it up nicely.....i will be discontinuing my subscription and will be disconnecting my on-star system somehow

[ParisTNDude]

I received a very disturbing letter today from On-Star. They have changed their policy. In essence, they have told me that they will continue to monitor my car with tracking and any other information they gleen even if I discontinue On-Star service. They said the only way I could stop them from doing this is if I had the system dismantled by my dealership. They also said they would share any information they collect with 3rd party companies. Did I mis-read this?

[Sterling]

Post a pic and we'll tell you if it was mis-read. I haven't gotten one of these yet...

[BlackPlague]

DESCRIPTION OF KEY CHANGES TO THE ONSTAR TERMS AND CONDITIONS
The following set out some of the key changes to the OnStar Terms and Conditions. The headings and section numbers refer to the corresponding headings and sections in the amended Terms and Conditions. All capitalized terms have the same meanings as defined in the amended Terms and Conditions.
OnStar Data Connection — Initial Terms
We have added to the Terms and Conditions the provision that if you or we cancel your OnStar Services, we will maintain the two-way connection with your Vehicle and may continue to collect data from your Vehicle, unless you take certain steps to deactivate the Data Connection or fully disable the Equipment.

If you do not want OnStar to maintain a Data Connection to your Vehicle, you can push your blue button or call us at 1.888.4.ONSTAR at any time and request that the Data Connection be deactivated. It may take up to sixty (60) days for OnStar to cancel your account and deactivate the Data Connection to your Vehicle. During this sixty (60) day period, Service may still be available, and data may be collected from your Vehicle.

Upon deactivation, OnStar will no longer be capable of contacting, or obtaining data from, your Vehicle although you will be able to contact OnStar by pressing the blue OnStar button twice. To disable the Vehicle's ability to contact OnStar through the blue OnStar button, you must visit an authorized dealer and ask them to remove the Equipment from your Vehicle.

How Your OnStar Equipment Works, Geographic Limits, and Other Restrictions — Section 10
We have added to Section 10 the provision that OnStar is not responsible for your failure to comply with applicable laws while you are driving or using the Equipment or Services.

OnStar Advisors Connect You to Other Service Providers — Section 12
We have added to Section 12 the provision that OnStar is not responsible for charges, fees, or taxes arising from services provided by Service Providers, including law enforcement, fire department, or ambulance services, contacted by OnStar.

What If Your Vehicle Is Stolen? — Section 17
As with the previous Terms and Conditions, you can elect to deactivate the ability of OnStar to slow down your Vehicle. However, pursuant to the amended Terms and Conditions, if you deactivate this capability, you will not be able to receive any Services at all.

Your Privacy — Section 32
The amended Terms and Conditions reflect changes that we have contemporaneously made to our Privacy Statement. Although the Terms and Conditions describe and summarize some of the key provisions in our Privacy Statement, we encourage you to review the Privacy Statement to learn the full details of our privacy practices (a copy of the Privacy Statement is attached as Schedule A to the amended Terms and Conditions and can also be found here).

We have added to the amended Terms and Conditions more detailed information about the information we collect about you and about your Vehicle, including how we collect your information, what we do with it and how we share it. For example, unless the Data Connection in your Vehicle is deactivated, information about your Vehicle may continue to be collected even if you do not have Service. In addition to other purposes set out in the prior version of the Privacy Statement, we may use the information we collect about you and your Vehicle to improve the quality of our Service and offerings and may share the information we collect with law enforcement or other public safety officials, credit card processors, and/or third parties we contract with who conduct joint marketing initiatives with OnStar. The Privacy Statement provides certain options relating to choices you have concerning how your information is used and how you may manage your preferences. Finally, we have added additional information about how OnStar safeguards your personal information.

The Law That Governs Our Relationship — Section 39
We have changed Section 39 of the Terms and Conditions to specify that the laws that govern the amended Terms and Conditions will be the laws of the state of your OnStar billing address.

[DuhKoDuh]

this is kinda scary!...but i hope it is

[Sugarloaded]

I would never have that crap in any of my cars.

[HufferSS]

Seems pretty easy to get out....call and ask.

If you do not want OnStar to maintain a Data Connection to your Vehicle, you can push your blue button or call us at 1.888.4.ONSTAR at any time and request that the Data Connection be deactivated. It may take up to sixty (60) days for OnStar to cancel your account and deactivate the Data Connection to your Vehicle. During this sixty (60) day period, Service may still be available, and data may be collected from your Vehicle.

Upon deactivation, OnStar will no longer be capable of contacting, or obtaining data from, your Vehicle although you will be able to contact OnStar by pressing the blue OnStar button twice. To disable the Vehicle's ability to contact OnStar through the blue OnStar button, you must visit an authorized dealer and ask them to remove the Equipment from your Vehicle.

[babaron]

it means ending your paid subcription does not end the communication between car and on star. you must ask for this communication to end.

if you dont ask then they can share the data with others.

i would like to know if, while they are still collecting data, are they responsible for an emergency crash response or call for help? you would think that they would.

any lawyers on line to weigh in?

[jeepinocala]

You are worried about nothing. They dont share it with anyone and nobody could use that info for any reason it is not legal once you cancel it. Onstart is only for your good it is a service not someone watching for you to do wrong if your car is going to get repo than that is their choice to use it to find the car and really it is no big deal as for advantage well if you get stupid and crash somwhere far you will still have help comming. They can not use it for tickets

[TonyNo]

Wow. I was hoping someone would read it before I had to.

[Camaro_Custom_Painted]

If they have data then I would think it could be subpoenaed by the courts, just like the 'black box' data in the car computers has been. Its not hard to imagine such a thing happening. I'm not going to worry about it, but I can see it happening.

[IBM]

Seriously, not another one of these threads. Stop.

[gahammerle]

I wonder if they make body wraps for Camaros in tin foil?

[mlee]

I'm kind of thinking a lot of good things could come from this too... Safety wise...