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gettinginaMaro! · 06-10-2009, 07:15 PM

I'm curries to know how much NA power can be brought out of the LS3 block, I was inittally going for an engine swap but ran into some CARB EO problems so I'm back to the drawing board & locking for ideas I'm not gonna fake it I have a basic knowledge of keeping up a car (70 Monte w/350 & a 66 Stng w/289) my step dad was a ford buy bio father a Chevy guy I'm back around my bio (04 Z06) & I always loved the classic muscle cars the Maro is my dream of 60's muscle with modern power & HANDLEING!! I'm looking to keep the Maro as a daily driver streeting it but able to run with my dad's Z06 at the track as my location shows I am currently in Iraq so I will have a few dollars to play with when I get back. My unlce dragged cars my step dad actually raced on dirt track so I have been around high hp cars & even have some seat time (an engine shop next to my step dad's garage had 2 69 Maro's that they raced on 105 octane I always new when they were playing with those babies b/c I could smell the 105 & a smile would creep across my face even as I turned the wrench on my 289 with the thought of ONE DAY!) I am now a 27 year old combat vet of multilple tours & I have absoulutly no need to street race I have risked my life plenty & have no desire to risk others I am just truely looking to have something that I can have fun with & is truely unique my stroy so far & now I seek the wisdom of the many here on Camaro5...

DanD · 06-10-2009, 08:45 PM

$$ not an object and still streetable... 500 rwhp (on the non bullshit meter) much more than that in any street form is BS is all I am saying.

*CamaroSpike23* · 06-10-2009, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DanD

$$ not an object and still streetable... 500 rwhp (on the non bullshit meter) much more than that in any street form is BS is all I am saying.

550rwhp + with the right cam/heads. its already been done.

*The_Blur* · 06-10-2009, 09:42 PM

You can push the LS-series very hard. It's worth pointing out that doing this will require all bolt-on parts, and some internal work. Always tune your modified car for best results, and be sure to study which parts last the longest and which parts provide the most power.

DanD · 06-10-2009, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by CamaroSpike23

550rwhp + with the right cam/heads. its already been done.

would love to know what this car runs... to prove the 550rwhp, seen sooo many claims and even dynos, yet they don't run close. Way to many ways to mess with the dyno #'s IMO only of course.

*Milk 1027* · 06-10-2009, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by CamaroSpike23

550rwhp + with the right cam/heads. its already been done.

I'd like to see details of this.

*CamaroSpike23* · 06-10-2009, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanD

would love to know what this car runs... to prove the 550rwhp, seen sooo many claims and even dynos, yet they don't run close. Way to many ways to mess with the dyno #'s IMO only of course.

I'm fully aware that power numbers dont translate to 1/4 mile numbers.

ive seen the 11 sec LT1 that only has 346 rwhp

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Originally Posted by Milk 1027

I'd like to see details of this.

http://www.sdpc2000.com/product/MMS1...rnKeyWECM.aspx

mast motorsports...

and GMHTP did a CNC LS3 vette that was pushing 5XX's

http://www.gmhightechperformance.com...wap/index.html

LS3 with a decent cam and cnc ported heads pushing 518rwhp.

DanD · 06-11-2009, 08:08 AM

that link is 550 flywheel HP.. not RWHP.. RWHP would be 650ish at 550 rwhp

or what I think is realistic 600ish which is 500rwhp. For the street/pump fuel

gettinginaMaro! · 06-11-2009, 08:12 AM

ok I should not only ask how much but also the best way about doing it, I'm thinking all the internals would need to be replaced with forged & I am aware of bullet-proofing the bottom & drive train it will be a complete build including suspinsion & fat tires & as we all know it will never be "done" b/c there is always something more that can be done lol

BoostedX2 · 06-11-2009, 08:45 AM

Can anyone tell me why the Corvette in the GMHTP article has a stock 406 hp? I know that the vette has some fancy exhaust with diverters, but thats still 50!!! + hp from what I've seen on the forum?? Thanks!

*CamaroSpike23* · 06-11-2009, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanD

that link is 550 flywheel HP.. not RWHP.. RWHP would be 650ish at 550 rwhp

or what I think is realistic 600ish which is 500rwhp. For the street/pump fuel

well, the OP didnt specify. he asked how much power could be made from the block. and 518rwhp isnt something to bawk at either...

DanD · 06-11-2009, 11:33 AM

to answer a few questions.... I think most would be MORE than happy with headers and bolt ons, then just add a mid sized cam and you're in the 450+ rwhp range (525+ engine hp)

more than that gets more expensive of course, and would need ported heads, but still IMO no bottom end work for the street.

gettinginaMaro! · 06-11-2009, 02:00 PM

Noticed in the Sticky with the LS3 specs that in the summary they state from the LS3 block they had made 700 horse all motor, is that a reality (& that was a few years ago now) & how could that be achieved?

DanD · 06-11-2009, 02:44 PM

yes you can, but I would assume race fuel and huge compression, huge cam etc.. not a street/driver... 600hp would be possible for a weekend driver.

06-10-2009, 07:15 PM	#1
gettinginaMaro! Drives: At the moment I gun a 50 cal Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: CA but IRAQ atm Posts: 53	NA POWER!? I'm curries to know how much NA power can be brought out of the LS3 block, I was inittally going for an engine swap but ran into some CARB EO problems so I'm back to the drawing board & locking for ideas I'm not gonna fake it I have a basic knowledge of keeping up a car (70 Monte w/350 & a 66 Stng w/289) my step dad was a ford buy bio father a Chevy guy I'm back around my bio (04 Z06) & I always loved the classic muscle cars the Maro is my dream of 60's muscle with modern power & HANDLEING!! I'm looking to keep the Maro as a daily driver streeting it but able to run with my dad's Z06 at the track as my location shows I am currently in Iraq so I will have a few dollars to play with when I get back. My unlce dragged cars my step dad actually raced on dirt track so I have been around high hp cars & even have some seat time (an engine shop next to my step dad's garage had 2 69 Maro's that they raced on 105 octane I always new when they were playing with those babies b/c I could smell the 105 & a smile would creep across my face even as I turned the wrench on my 289 with the thought of ONE DAY!) I am now a 27 year old combat vet of multilple tours & I have absoulutly no need to street race I have risked my life plenty & have no desire to risk others I am just truely looking to have something that I can have fun with & is truely unique my stroy so far & now I seek the wisdom of the many here on Camaro5...

06-10-2009, 08:45 PM	#2
DanD Drives: 6 camaros Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ma Posts: 320	$$ not an object and still streetable... 500 rwhp (on the non bullshit meter) much more than that in any street form is BS is all I am saying. __________________ 2010 IOM RS/SS TVS2300, cam, stall, headers 2002 Z28 427 2002 SSLE Convertible 1968 383 Camaro 1968 327 Camaro Convertible 1967 RS 327 1967 Pro-Tour LS3 in progress

06-10-2009, 09:42 PM	#4
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06-11-2009, 08:08 AM	#8
DanD Drives: 6 camaros Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ma Posts: 320	that link is 550 flywheel HP.. not RWHP.. RWHP would be 650ish at 550 rwhp or what I think is realistic 600ish which is 500rwhp. For the street/pump fuel __________________ 2010 IOM RS/SS TVS2300, cam, stall, headers 2002 Z28 427 2002 SSLE Convertible 1968 383 Camaro 1968 327 Camaro Convertible 1967 RS 327 1967 Pro-Tour LS3 in progress

06-11-2009, 11:33 AM	#12
DanD Drives: 6 camaros Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ma Posts: 320	to answer a few questions.... I think most would be MORE than happy with headers and bolt ons, then just add a mid sized cam and you're in the 450+ rwhp range (525+ engine hp) more than that gets more expensive of course, and would need ported heads, but still IMO no bottom end work for the street. __________________ 2010 IOM RS/SS TVS2300, cam, stall, headers 2002 Z28 427 2002 SSLE Convertible 1968 383 Camaro 1968 327 Camaro Convertible 1967 RS 327 1967 Pro-Tour LS3 in progress

06-11-2009, 08:12 AM	#9
gettinginaMaro! Drives: At the moment I gun a 50 cal Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: CA but IRAQ atm Posts: 53	ok I should not only ask how much but also the best way about doing it, I'm thinking all the internals would need to be replaced with forged & I am aware of bullet-proofing the bottom & drive train it will be a complete build including suspinsion & fat tires & as we all know it will never be "done" b/c there is always something more that can be done lol

06-11-2009, 08:45 AM	#10
BoostedX2 Drives: VR ZL1 #259/Nissan 370Z NISMO Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,071	Can anyone tell me why the Corvette in the GMHTP article has a stock 406 hp? I know that the vette has some fancy exhaust with diverters, but thats still 50!!! + hp from what I've seen on the forum?? Thanks!

06-11-2009, 02:00 PM	#13
gettinginaMaro! Drives: At the moment I gun a 50 cal Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: CA but IRAQ atm Posts: 53	Noticed in the Sticky with the LS3 specs that in the summary they state from the LS3 block they had made 700 horse all motor, is that a reality (& that was a few years ago now) & how could that be achieved?

06-11-2009, 02:44 PM	#14
DanD Drives: 6 camaros Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ma Posts: 320	yes you can, but I would assume race fuel and huge compression, huge cam etc.. not a street/driver... 600hp would be possible for a weekend driver. __________________ 2010 IOM RS/SS TVS2300, cam, stall, headers 2002 Z28 427 2002 SSLE Convertible 1968 383 Camaro 1968 327 Camaro Convertible 1967 RS 327 1967 Pro-Tour LS3 in progress

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