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Badman · 07-25-2013, 02:57 PM

2010 SS Camaro,402 LSX with all the goodies,running Maggie SC. Have tried both the TPS and Mick Williams larger throttle bodies and have had nothing but idle probs. Having to use stock body at this time,so costing me air flow/horsepower. TPS sent various size blades and did not help. It appears they have a new and improved TB,maybe made by someone else,and it's a POS. The older models they use to sell worked great. As for the Mitch Williams,it tends to start sucking close at WOT due to SC and boost. Suppose to work on this issue,but need contact info for Mitch Williams if anyone has it. Also looking for older TPS 102mm throttle body,NIB if possible.Also,any help on this issue or same experience,please chime in. Simply want larger working TB to maximize my engines potential. Currently 760RWHP/765 Torque. Feel I'm losing 35-50HP due to restricted stock body. Thanks

mike@newera · 07-25-2013, 03:09 PM

If your stock throttle body is working fine, take the electronic motor out of it and swap it into the *Nick Williams 102 throttle body.

ayousef · 07-25-2013, 03:41 PM

if youre tune is incorrect you will have idle problems...

Badman · 07-25-2013, 04:23 PM

Tune is good. My tuner took TPIS body and put it on two other cars(Caddy and Camaro) and it did the same thing. Mitch Williams was supposed to work on this issue as he has had others with same issues,no word as of late. I'm going to contact tuner and see if they might have already done the MW 102 electronics swap. Appreciate the input. The issue seems to be about quality in these TB's.

Turbo99 · 07-25-2013, 05:06 PM

Hey just so you don't look like a dumb ass. Its a Nick Williams not Mitch or Mick. You have to change the tune for a larger TB so if all he is doing is taking off a NW or a TPIS and putting back on a stock on then he has not changed the tune for the 102 TB and therefore it will not idle.

old motorhead · 07-25-2013, 06:07 PM

Here's a little lite reading for you...http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=222094

Badman · 07-26-2013, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Turbo99

Hey just so you don't look like a dumb ass. Its a Nick Williams not Mitch or Mick. You have to change the tune for a larger TB so if all he is doing is taking off a NW or a TPIS and putting back on a stock on then he has not changed the tune for the 102 TB and therefore it will not idle.

No,tuning was done with each change. After reading thread in previous post it appears no solution for my issues anytime soon. Maggie was also sucking TB blade closed at WOT. TPIS was no help at all,sent three different TB's,all of them same problem. Seems as many cars in this category, a manufacturer could come up with a better product.

Badman · 07-26-2013, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by old motorhead

Here's a little lite reading for you...http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=222094

Thanks for the "lite" reading. Looks like I'm going to have to live with the stock TB for now. Or wish for a miracle.

Turbo99 · 07-26-2013, 09:47 AM

Someone over seas just posted a 820hp whipple with the NW, so it can be done maybe tuning or maybe each TB is different. Mine at 680rwhp has not slammed shut 11psi.

Badman · 07-26-2013, 02:10 PM

Got an e-mail from N Williams saying he has a new TB,still working on it,making sure it resolves this issue. Time will tell. Talked to several shop tuners in the area today(Houston),and all agree that it's a comp prob and a aftermarket TB on some builds,usually those over 700+ RWHP. (SIGH).

H-E · 07-29-2013, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Badman

Tune is good. My tuner took TPIS body and put it on two other cars(Caddy and Camaro) and it did the same thing. Mitch Williams was supposed to work on this issue as he has had others with same issues,no word as of late. I'm going to contact tuner and see if they might have already done the MW 102 electronics swap. Appreciate the input. The issue seems to be about quality in these TB's.

Its actually the stock computer,the NW 102 works fine with aftermarket computers. I may be at indy with one of the new models if anyone has an issue with there NW102 while im there

Pekka Perkeles · 07-29-2013, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by H-E

Its actually the stock computer,the NW 102 works fine with aftermarket computers.

Oh really?

Of course the NW 102 works fine with aftermarket computers, since none of them have TAC module that follows what's actually going on with the blade position.

dekan513 · 07-29-2013, 04:39 PM

seen them slam shut on a few guys. but they updated them a while back again.

07-25-2013, 02:57 PM	#1
Badman Drives: 2010 2SS Camaro Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Katy,Texas Posts: 54 View My Garage	Throttle body issues 2010 SS Camaro,402 LSX with all the goodies,running Maggie SC. Have tried both the TPS and Mick Williams larger throttle bodies and have had nothing but idle probs. Having to use stock body at this time,so costing me air flow/horsepower. TPS sent various size blades and did not help. It appears they have a new and improved TB,maybe made by someone else,and it's a POS. The older models they use to sell worked great. As for the Mitch Williams,it tends to start sucking close at WOT due to SC and boost. Suppose to work on this issue,but need contact info for Mitch Williams if anyone has it. Also looking for older TPS 102mm throttle body,NIB if possible.Also,any help on this issue or same experience,please chime in. Simply want larger working TB to maximize my engines potential. Currently 760RWHP/765 Torque. Feel I'm losing 35-50HP due to restricted stock body. Thanks

07-25-2013, 03:41 PM	#3
ayousef Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Dubai Posts: 757	if youre tune is incorrect you will have idle problems... __________________ 1150bhp Whipple 4.0 Supercharged 427ci Camaro ZL1

07-25-2013, 05:06 PM	#5
Turbo99 Drives: 08' F250 Diesel & 10' Camaro 2SS Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Gainesville,Fl Posts: 1,362 View My Garage	Hey just so you don't look like a dumb ass. Its a Nick Williams not Mitch or Mick. You have to change the tune for a larger TB so if all he is doing is taking off a NW or a TPIS and putting back on a stock on then he has not changed the tune for the 102 TB and therefore it will not idle. __________________ 08' F250 CCSB 6.4L Diesel White & Black, Blacked out, 580RWHP @ 55psi 13.21 @ 101mph 10' Camaro 2SS LS3 M6 White & Black, Blacked out, 684 RWHP & 633 FT.LBS @ 10psi 10.82@130mph TVS2300 ,Hendrix Street Slayer Twin Carbon Clutch, Dana 60 3.73, DSS 1400HP Axles,JRe cam & LaMotta Performance tuned,LPE Fuel, AI Super Chiller,MT ET Streets

07-26-2013, 09:47 AM	#9
Turbo99 Drives: 08' F250 Diesel & 10' Camaro 2SS Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Gainesville,Fl Posts: 1,362 View My Garage	Someone over seas just posted a 820hp whipple with the NW, so it can be done maybe tuning or maybe each TB is different. Mine at 680rwhp has not slammed shut 11psi. __________________ 08' F250 CCSB 6.4L Diesel White & Black, Blacked out, 580RWHP @ 55psi 13.21 @ 101mph 10' Camaro 2SS LS3 M6 White & Black, Blacked out, 684 RWHP & 633 FT.LBS @ 10psi 10.82@130mph TVS2300 ,Hendrix Street Slayer Twin Carbon Clutch, Dana 60 3.73, DSS 1400HP Axles,JRe cam & LaMotta Performance tuned,LPE Fuel, AI Super Chiller,MT ET Streets

07-29-2013, 04:39 PM	#13
dekan513 chevy pride Drives: 2ss/rs Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: pikeville ky Posts: 2,141 View My Garage	seen them slam shut on a few guys. but they updated them a while back again. __________________ check out ky speeds fb page https://www.facebook.com/kyspeed

07-25-2013, 03:09 PM	#2
mike@newera Drives: 2016 Camaro SS Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 529	If your stock throttle body is working fine, take the electronic motor out of it and swap it into the *Nick Williams 102 throttle body.

07-25-2013, 04:23 PM	#4
Badman Drives: 2010 2SS Camaro Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Katy,Texas Posts: 54 View My Garage	Tune is good. My tuner took TPIS body and put it on two other cars(Caddy and Camaro) and it did the same thing. Mitch Williams was supposed to work on this issue as he has had others with same issues,no word as of late. I'm going to contact tuner and see if they might have already done the MW 102 electronics swap. Appreciate the input. The issue seems to be about quality in these TB's.

07-25-2013, 06:07 PM	#6
old motorhead Drives: Maggie blown LS3 vette Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: SE TX Posts: 1,490	Here's a little lite reading for you...http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=222094

07-26-2013, 02:10 PM	#10
Badman Drives: 2010 2SS Camaro Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Katy,Texas Posts: 54 View My Garage	Got an e-mail from N Williams saying he has a new TB,still working on it,making sure it resolves this issue. Time will tell. Talked to several shop tuners in the area today(Houston),and all agree that it's a comp prob and a aftermarket TB on some builds,usually those over 700+ RWHP. (SIGH).