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The_Creepy_Zebra · 12-29-2011, 11:01 AM

When is a one piece drive shaft nessecary? Would you gain any hp buy losing the rotating mass of the stock one or just get there quicker. The car only has exhaust and intake on it. Do think it will ever see over 450 rwhp.

JDP Tech · 12-29-2011, 03:12 PM

The one piece is mostly needed for force inducted cars, most people won't have any problems with the stock piece, even up to and beyond 600rwhp, but you're playing with chance at that point. I'd say around the 550-600 rear wheel horsepower, think about getting one. The one-piece is a lot stronger, which makes it good for durability, particularly in a manual car, the driveshaft gets beat on a lot harder than an auto does.

It won't give you any more power, but will give that power a greater ability to get to the ground. The stock driveshaft is fairly mushy, and will take up some of the usable power at start out, making it slightly slower.

With an intake and exhaust on your car, if you have a manual, you're probably around 440-450hp at the engine, which means you're about 375-380hp at the rear wheel, even less if you have an auto. In my opinion, you probably don't need a one-piece driveshaft now. Unless you plan on supercharging, then keep your money and put it towards a cam swap!

If you have any questions, feel free to call, email, or PM anytime!
- Jeremy

Driveshaftshop · 12-30-2011, 09:04 AM

i agree, unless you start breaking/ the Giubo mounting bolts its not needed. it will make an improvement to reaction time and launch feel if your looking for a more connected feel out of the car but not actually needed until you go higher in the HP range.

hypurone · 12-30-2011, 09:56 AM

I personally have not done a before/after dyno on mine as it went in during a rather large upgrade. But Doc did a before/after and picked up 6HP/10TQ with his 1-piece plus IIRC, he picked up another 3HP when he went from AL to CF.... I can tell you that the car will feel "hardwired" to your right foot afterward!

PAUL SS · 12-30-2011, 10:24 AM

What is the weight saving over the factory drive shaft compared to a one piece?

Driveshaftshop · 12-30-2011, 10:29 AM

I'm not sure what the stock shaft weighs, the aluminum is about 17lbs and the carbon 15lbs. the conversion plates a few pounds. our server is down now or i would have exact numbers.

Dave Coyle · 12-30-2011, 10:34 AM

How much are we talking for the one piece shaft? I am planning the SC and with all the other mods I will be in the area of 550 RWHP. I may want this up-grade!

Driveshaftshop · 12-30-2011, 12:34 PM

our aluminum shaft is 899.99 and the carbon is 1399.99

bmbbl be · 12-30-2011, 12:46 PM

livernois is doing mine,,,,i got a aluminum !!!

12-29-2011, 11:01 AM	#1
The_Creepy_Zebra Drives: 2011 1SS Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Quincy il Posts: 62	One piece drive shaft When is a one piece drive shaft nessecary? Would you gain any hp buy losing the rotating mass of the stock one or just get there quicker. The car only has exhaust and intake on it. Do think it will ever see over 450 rwhp.

12-30-2011, 09:56 AM	#4
hypurone I'm not totally useless.. Drives: ... Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: ... Posts: 2,008 View My Garage	I personally have not done a before/after dyno on mine as it went in during a rather large upgrade. But Doc did a before/after and picked up 6HP/10TQ with his 1-piece plus IIRC, he picked up another 3HP when he went from AL to CF.... I can tell you that the car will feel "hardwired" to your right foot afterward! __________________ "You were really flyin' when I passed you back there!" - Born on 10/05/09 MyCamaroBuildInfo

12-30-2011, 10:24 AM	#5
PAUL SS The Mark of Excellence Drives: 2010 ABM 1SS RS LS3 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Smallest State in the Union Posts: 8,688 View My Garage	What is the weight saving over the factory drive shaft compared to a one piece? __________________ BMR, CAI, DynoMax, Elite Eng., Hurst, Jannetty, Clear Image Headers & Hi Flow cats, Jet Hot, LSR, TSW, VMax, Vredestein Last edited by PAUL SS; 12-30-2011 at 10:35 AM.

12-30-2011, 10:34 AM	#7
Dave Coyle Drives: 2010 SS , 1970 Z-28, 2002 Avalanche Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Michigan Posts: 2,524 View My Garage	How much are we talking for the one piece shaft? I am planning the SC and with all the other mods I will be in the area of 550 RWHP. I may want this up-grade! __________________ IF IT'S WORTH HAVING, IT'S WORTH WAITING FOR!!!! (AND IT WAS) 434RWHP/403RWTQ Livernois Motorsports 2C Cam kit Kooks 1 7/8 LT Headers/Hi-Flo Cats/Corsa Exhaust Roto-Fab CAI / Port Intake Precission 2400/2800 Converter/3.73 AAM gears Livernois Motorsports Tune Best time: 11.97 @ 117 MPH

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12-29-2011, 03:12 PM	#2
JDP Tech Drives: 2010 CGM Camaro 2SS/RS 429 LSX/F1X Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Sandy, UT Posts: 429	The one piece is mostly needed for force inducted cars, most people won't have any problems with the stock piece, even up to and beyond 600rwhp, but you're playing with chance at that point. I'd say around the 550-600 rear wheel horsepower, think about getting one. The one-piece is a lot stronger, which makes it good for durability, particularly in a manual car, the driveshaft gets beat on a lot harder than an auto does. It won't give you any more power, but will give that power a greater ability to get to the ground. The stock driveshaft is fairly mushy, and will take up some of the usable power at start out, making it slightly slower. With an intake and exhaust on your car, if you have a manual, you're probably around 440-450hp at the engine, which means you're about 375-380hp at the rear wheel, even less if you have an auto. In my opinion, you probably don't need a one-piece driveshaft now. Unless you plan on supercharging, then keep your money and put it towards a cam swap! If you have any questions, feel free to call, email, or PM anytime! - Jeremy

12-30-2011, 09:04 AM	#3
Driveshaftshop Drives: own more cars than i can list Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 1,124	i agree, unless you start breaking/ the Giubo mounting bolts its not needed. it will make an improvement to reaction time and launch feel if your looking for a more connected feel out of the car but not actually needed until you go higher in the HP range.

12-30-2011, 10:29 AM	#6
Driveshaftshop Drives: own more cars than i can list Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 1,124	I'm not sure what the stock shaft weighs, the aluminum is about 17lbs and the carbon 15lbs. the conversion plates a few pounds. our server is down now or i would have exact numbers.

12-30-2011, 12:34 PM	#8
Driveshaftshop Drives: own more cars than i can list Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 1,124	our aluminum shaft is 899.99 and the carbon is 1399.99

12-30-2011, 12:46 PM	#9
bmbbl be Drives: 2010 CAMARO SS Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: ohio Posts: 1,360	livernois is doing mine,,,,i got a aluminum !!!