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NVNO1 · 03-17-2015, 08:04 PM

As the title states. I drove a ZL1 for the first time Saturday. Loved the car and would like to buy one in the near future. Awesome sound and feel. Also very fast. From all I've read on the ZL1 it seems like it would be a real race for a corvette grand sport or C5 Z06 from say 40-140. I think A ZL1 would need 680-700 crank HP to be even with a C6 Z06. DO you guys agree? NOT try to start a war here or bench race. Just trying to get a good idea what it would take to be even with a C6Z06. Has anyone had any real world experiences with a C6Z? I have a 2009 Z06 which is stock, but would like to add a ZL1 as a stable mate as I think they are both awesome cars

Redlineviper · 03-17-2015, 08:42 PM

600whp will make it a close race. That would be about 700 at the crank. If you crunch the number for power to weight it would take around 621 crank hp but from what I have seen that's not enough.

Juiced1 · 03-17-2015, 08:49 PM

In Nevada you'll need to be on the higher end of that number too. You're working with a blower that will get heat soak and that LS7 is still rocking a plastic unit.

Stephen12ZL1 · 03-17-2015, 09:52 PM

In an auto, you will need 580rwhp to have a realistic chance. With a 6spd, 600+ rwhp.

hognutz · 03-17-2015, 09:55 PM

target ~600whp. I am at ~585 and I think I am still a tick off.

in my mind

9.1 or 9.55 lower
cai
headers
hx
injectors
would be minimum recipe and should get you close.

throw a cam in the mix if you want to overshoot. then you can get into the 650-675 range and be faster.

ZL1Kid_AL · 03-17-2015, 10:09 PM

If the vette is stock I would say 550-580whp would do the trick....I'm at 630 wheel in an M6. Lost to a c6 zo6 headers + 100 shot, tune by a car length... was ahead until the weight difference caught up to me

cbarile · 03-18-2015, 08:41 AM

I have an auto ZL1 with around 600 rwp my buddy has a stock new zo6 with z07 package. I think that's what he called it. We were going around 45 mph the temp was 50 and I am on stock tires that suck in the cold. We take off and I torched the tires for 100ft once I hooked up he was 2 cars ahead. Once I had traction he didn't pull away much til around 120 and when I let off at 160 he had 3.5-4 cars on me.

NVNO1 · 03-19-2015, 09:09 PM

Thanks for the input guys. Seems like 700 crank give or take a bit should put it even with a C6Z06. Looks like the JDP ZL-700 package would be a good way to get there.

revobasher · 03-19-2015, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NVNO1

Thanks for the input guys. Seems like 700 crank give or take a bit should put it even with a C6Z06. Looks like the JDP ZL-700 package would be a good way to get there.

Indeed!! JDP is awesome!!

Raven87 · 03-20-2015, 04:40 PM

A lot of it depends upon what speed you want to 'hang with' the C6Z.

The C6Z is a monster and it has very long legs. From a dig or roll, 700 HP may be enough to be competitive.

But - above 130-ish, you will most likely need more HP because the aero advantage the C6Z has is incredible.

Sounds fun either way. I've driven several C6Zs and they are very, very impressive - even bone stock.

03-17-2015, 08:04 PM	#1
NVNO1 Drives: corvette Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Nevada Posts: 123	How much HP to stay with a C6 Z06 As the title states. I drove a ZL1 for the first time Saturday. Loved the car and would like to buy one in the near future. Awesome sound and feel. Also very fast. From all I've read on the ZL1 it seems like it would be a real race for a corvette grand sport or C5 Z06 from say 40-140. I think A ZL1 would need 680-700 crank HP to be even with a C6 Z06. DO you guys agree? NOT try to start a war here or bench race. Just trying to get a good idea what it would take to be even with a C6Z06. Has anyone had any real world experiences with a C6Z? I have a 2009 Z06 which is stock, but would like to add a ZL1 as a stable mate as I think they are both awesome cars

03-17-2015, 09:52 PM	#4
Stephen12ZL1 Drives: '21 ZLE A10 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Mechanicsville, VA Posts: 6,824	In an auto, you will need 580rwhp to have a realistic chance. With a 6spd, 600+ rwhp. __________________ '21 ZLE A10 Wild Cherry PDR 2:00.78 VIR Full 10.68@131.69 1.68 60' '17 ZL1 A10 Mosaic Black PDR/Nav 2:03.08 VIR Full 11.003@129.2 1.75 (sold) '15 Z/28 #325 Black a/c & stereo. 2:10.1 VIR Full (sold) '12 ZL1 A6 Black 10.52@131 1.55 60' 2:13 VIR Full (sold)

03-17-2015, 09:55 PM	#5
hognutz Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: tangent or Posts: 2,985	target ~600whp. I am at ~585 and I think I am still a tick off. in my mind 9.1 or 9.55 lower cai headers hx injectors would be minimum recipe and should get you close. throw a cam in the mix if you want to overshoot. then you can get into the 650-675 range and be faster. __________________ 2016 2SS 2020 super duty on 37's

03-17-2015, 10:09 PM	#6
ZL1Kid_AL Drives: 2014 ZL1- Summit White M6 Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Thornton, Colorado Posts: 462	If the vette is stock I would say 550-580whp would do the trick....I'm at 630 wheel in an M6. Lost to a c6 zo6 headers + 100 shot, tune by a car length... was ahead until the weight difference caught up to me __________________ 750whp @ 13psi Garage Built on Jack Stands.. 850++ 100 shot of sauce

03-20-2015, 04:40 PM	#10
Raven87 C'mon- really? Drives: Looking for a ZL1 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Nortwestern Ohio Posts: 1,966 View My Garage	A lot of it depends upon what speed you want to 'hang with' the C6Z. The C6Z is a monster and it has very long legs. From a dig or roll, 700 HP may be enough to be competitive. But - above 130-ish, you will most likely need more HP because the aero advantage the C6Z has is incredible. Sounds fun either way. I've driven several C6Zs and they are very, very impressive - even bone stock. __________________ Steve 2018 Camaro 2SS 1LE Black #3805 - SOLD

03-17-2015, 08:42 PM	#2
Redlineviper Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Orlando Posts: 936	600whp will make it a close race. That would be about 700 at the crank. If you crunch the number for power to weight it would take around 621 crank hp but from what I have seen that's not enough.

03-17-2015, 08:49 PM	#3
Juiced1 Account Suspended Drives: 2012 2SS CAMARO 45th Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: St. Charles, IL Posts: 18,648	In Nevada you'll need to be on the higher end of that number too. You're working with a blower that will get heat soak and that LS7 is still rocking a plastic unit.

03-18-2015, 08:41 AM	#7
cbarile Drives: zl1 Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: fl Posts: 40	I have an auto ZL1 with around 600 rwp my buddy has a stock new zo6 with z07 package. I think that's what he called it. We were going around 45 mph the temp was 50 and I am on stock tires that suck in the cold. We take off and I torched the tires for 100ft once I hooked up he was 2 cars ahead. Once I had traction he didn't pull away much til around 120 and when I let off at 160 he had 3.5-4 cars on me.

03-19-2015, 09:09 PM	#8
NVNO1 Drives: corvette Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Nevada Posts: 123	Thanks for the input guys. Seems like 700 crank give or take a bit should put it even with a C6Z06. Looks like the JDP ZL-700 package would be a good way to get there.