Need brake/suspension advice for the track

[int0xic]

If everything goes well I'll be heading to the track in 3 weeks or so. My current tires, P-Zeros, don't have much tread left and I wouldn't trust them on the track and I'm looking to get either some Eagle F1s or anything else that might get suggested, but that'll be for a different post. As for the brakes/rotors I have the stock Brembos that my car came with. I have't had to replace them yet but I would still like to get some different pads and possibly rotors for the day and save them for another track day if I can. Someone told me to look at the Hawk Ceramic pads but I remember reading somewhere on here that a member wasn't pleased with them and would like some feedback. I'm open to any suggestions though. Not trying to spend more than $150 but if I have to I'll go upto $200 on the brake pads and about the same on the rotors. Also thinking of getting some BMR or Eibach sway bars before the track day. For my suspension mods all I have is 1.4" BMR lowering springs and BMR strut tower brace. Again I'm open to any suggestions on suspension mods too.

[SPCBA]

Do not take those ceramic pads on a road course please

[int0xic]

Which brakes would you recommend I take?

[Black Market Racing]

If you are going to be doing road course stuff i would recommend EBC. If you dont want to swap pads at the track, the yellowstuff would probably be a pretty good option.

[JDP Sales]

Originally Posted by int0xic

If everything goes well I'll be heading to the track in 3 weeks or so. My current tires, P-Zeros, don't have much tread left and I wouldn't trust them on the track and I'm looking to get either some Eagle F1s or anything else that might get suggested, but that'll be for a different post. As for the brakes/rotors I have the stock Brembos that my car came with. I have't had to replace them yet but I would still like to get some different pads and possibly rotors for the day and save them for another track day if I can. Someone told me to look at the Hawk Ceramic pads but I remember reading somewhere on here that a member wasn't pleased with them and would like some feedback. I'm open to any suggestions though. Not trying to spend more than $150 but if I have to I'll go upto $200 on the brake pads and about the same on the rotors. Also thinking of getting some BMR or Eibach sway bars before the track day. For my suspension mods all I have is 1.4" BMR lowering springs and BMR strut tower brace. Again I'm open to any suggestions on suspension mods too.

For track use, the OEM pads are decent for a beginner; better than just about any pad that has acceptable street manners. If you want something more aggressive, you want to look into the Hawk DTC compounds and you're going to have to raise your budget. $150-$200 will get you front pads, but that's about it.

As for rotors, stick with OEM. They're better than most of the aftermarket and will do just fine until you're ready to spend the money on a high quality setup.

As for suspension, the possibilities are endless. Feel free to call, PM or email me and I'll be happy to help you get setup with the right parts to meet your goals.

Best regards,

Tyler
888-308-6007

[Jenner]

Why don't you go out there with stock brakes and suspension and then start upgrading hat you feel needs to be upgraded. Also I would listen to Tyler's suggestions. Good luck!

[Destructo09]

I agree with Jenner, I wouldn't worry about sway bars or any of that, you won't be driving the car anywhere near the limit where they're going to help you.

Brakes however at least need to be good enough to be safe, avoid Ceramics at all costs for track. Do you know how much pad is left on your OEMs? If there's a good bit then I would just leave them on.

If the tires are close to the wear bars you probably need to replace them with some fresh tires. I assume you want to go with the OEM 245/275 setup? If so Continental DW is a really good tire for the money, A lot of people seem to be liking the Mickey Thompson Street Comps also, and they look good on the car.

There are some other options too like BFG Sport comp2s, they're cheap but aren't really good tires. They're pretty noisy and don't grip super well. They will do fine though, you probably won't be driving hard enough to tell the difference between any of those tires. Just make sure you get a good Summer compound tire, all seasons usually won't hold up on the track very well.

[int0xic]

Originally Posted by Destructo09

I agree with Jenner, I wouldn't worry about sway bars or any of that, you won't be driving the car anywhere near the limit where they're going to help you.

Brakes however at least need to be good enough to be safe, avoid Ceramics at all costs for track. Do you know how much pad is left on your OEMs? If there's a good bit then I would just leave them on.

If the tires are close to the wear bars you probably need to replace them with some fresh tires. I assume you want to go with the OEM 245/275 setup? If so Continental DW is a really good tire for the money, A lot of people seem to be liking the Mickey Thompson Street Comps also, and they look good on the car.

There are some other options too like BFG Sport comp2s, they're cheap but aren't really good tires. They're pretty noisy and don't grip super well. They will do fine though, you probably won't be driving hard enough to tell the difference between any of those tires. Just make sure you get a good Summer compound tire, all seasons usually won't hold up on the track very well.

My brakes have a good amount left I just know that I'm going to have to replace the pads/rotors at ~30k miles if I use them for the track. Not too bad I guess just was thinking about have a seperate set of pads and maybe rotors incase I ever want to go back to the track and not put so much wear on my street set up.

[Jenner]

Originally Posted by int0xic

My brakes have a good amount left I just know that I'm going to have to replace the pads/rotors at ~30k miles if I use them for the track. Not too bad I guess just was thinking about have a seperate set of pads and maybe rotors incase I ever want to go back to the track and not put so much wear on my street set up.

I think a track pad is a good idea. You. Can switch them when you get to the track and then agian before you leave. I would wait and see how the rotors do before you make a decision to upgrade.

[toehead93]

I cant recommend the Michelin PSS enough, dry grip is up there with the goodyears but so much better in the wet, and they last twice as long. Don t use ceramic brakes, the stock pads are ok, you should change your brake fluid to dot 4 like Motul!

[Destructo09]

Originally Posted by toehead93

I cant recommend the Michelin PSS enough, dry grip is up there with the goodyears but so much better in the wet, and they last twice as long. Don t use ceramic brakes, the stock pads are ok, you should change your brake fluid to dot 4 like Motul!

+1 on the fluid, that is a must whether you run track pads or not!

I have a set of Hawk HP+ and they performed quite well the last two days of HPDE on VIR-N. I had plenty of open track and was signed off to run solo my last two runs. The passenger front apparently wasn't actually getting hot enough because it left of pad material on my rotor on that corner.

I didn't have any fade at all even braking from 130mph down to maybe 40-50mph for turn 1. I'm sure as I get better and dive deeper into the braking zones they might start to show their limitations but they did quite well.

If your going to run dedicated pads and rotors though I would suggest something higher up the ladder than HP+, they are obviously an entry level pad, but will probably get you through your first few HPDE events before wearing out and aren't as expensive and the big boy pads. They do have great braking power.