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Old 11-29-2016, 10:41 PM   #1
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15 Camaro 2LT Ghost Cam sound [Trifecta Tune]

I was asked by some fellow members of camaro5 to post the ghost cam.

Youtube videos show a pretty good example of how my car sounds with this ghost cam on and it sounds insanely great. Almost unbelievable to me... amazing.... but its nothing like in person even better sounding because you hear every little bit

Please use hi-def head phones to hear the best possible sound quality

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Old 11-29-2016, 10:55 PM   #2
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Well......imo it really doesn't sound like anything. It's definetely not as loopy as a real cam oviously. Maybe it's the vid but I really don't see any benefit to doing this....zero performance gains and not that great of sound. If you like it thats fine but in a crowd of car guys I'm thinking they won't notice at all.
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Old 11-29-2016, 11:45 PM   #3
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Well......imo it really doesn't sound like anything. It's definetely not as loopy as a real cam oviously. Maybe it's the vid but I really don't see any benefit to doing this....zero performance gains and not that great of sound. If you like it thats fine but in a crowd of car guys I'm thinking they won't notice at all.

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but its nothing like in person even better sounding because you hear every little bit
you hear the lopes better in person they are really aggressive just not as deep-toned as a ss but they are there. Honestly 370-380 HP is fine on the roads... more than enough. Keep in mind a 2lt is around 200 pounds lighter than a v8 so thats pretty fast.

The trifecta tune gives performance results... ghost cam is just an option.
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Old 11-30-2016, 12:52 AM   #4
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My tuner told me that those tunes were terrible, and that he doesn't put them on any of his cars, or recommend them on any of the cars that he touches. You have absolutely no performance gain, and a lean idling car.

Granted GM has done some of this with their cars, but I'll leave it up to the manufacturers.
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Old 11-30-2016, 01:09 AM   #5
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My tuner told me that those tunes were terrible, and that he doesn't put them on any of his cars, or recommend them on any of the cars that he touches. You have absolutely no performance gain, and a lean idling car.

Granted GM has done some of this with their cars, but I'll leave it up to the manufacturers.
did you not just see what i said in the above post? THE TUNE gives performance results, the ghost cam is an OPTION.

Your tuner buddy can say whatever he wants. I've built and added parts to my car (myself)... not a local mechanic or tuner guy.

As of real proof for the ghost cam damaging or being "terrible" to your car there is none. I know former people who have done it and never seen any issues so honestly I don't know where that came from.
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you hear the lopes better in person they are really aggressive just not as deep-toned as a ss but they are there. Honestly 370-380 HP is fine on the roads... more than enough. Keep in mind a 2lt is around 200 pounds lighter than a v8 so thats pretty fast.

The trifecta tune gives performance results... ghost cam is just an option.
I know exhaust sounds better in person for sure. What mods do you have that your putting down 360 to 380 hp ? Like others have said ive heard those ghost cams tunes are not good for either the v6 or the 8.....but alot of people seem to be doing them.
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did you not just see what i said in the above post? THE TUNE gives performance results, the ghost cam is an OPTION.

Your tuner buddy can say whatever he wants. I've built and added parts to my car (myself)... not a local mechanic or tuner guy.

As of real proof for the ghost cam damaging or being "terrible" to your car there is none. I know former people who have done it and never seen any issues so honestly I don't know where that came from.
Well, the honest truth is, I have no experience that I can directly share. So all I am doing is regurgitating information that has been given to me from pros, and stuff that I have read, which supports that.

While Matt from FSP has gone out of business, his reputation as a tuner, is pretty stout. It is his and the opinions of the vast majority of tuners over on HPTuners forums regarding Ghost cam tunes is similar. Most won't and don't mess with them for the reasons I have already stated.
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Lastly, the fact that you have performance results, is not related to the ghost cam tune, Its a product of Trifectas tune, which incorporates other aspects. If you just installed the ghost cam tune portion alone, you would see no gains.
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I know exhaust sounds better in person for sure. What mods do you have that your putting down 360 to 380 hp ? Like others have said ive heard those ghost cams tunes are not good for either the v6 or the 8.....but alot of people seem to be doing them.
I recently added the spectre air intake cold air intake and will be doing a dyno tune real soon. Thats how much im going to be expecting around. The tune takes advantage of better air intake (like most tunes)
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Well, the honest truth is, I have no experience that I can directly share. So all I am doing is regurgitating information that has been given to me from pros, and stuff that I have read, which supports that.

While Matt from FSP has gone out of business, his reputation as a tuner, is pretty stout. It is his and the opinions of the vast majority of tuners over on HPTuners forums regarding Ghost cam tunes is similar. Most won't and don't mess with them for the reasons I have already stated.
I'm aware that HP Tuner produces more performance because I know people who have it but the trifecta tuner package is just better to me. I rather have that than an extra 10 hp... we're talking about hp increases that are equivalent to crumbs... not that significant.

So I understand where you are coming from, however the advantage in the other tune will be cool but not that significant compared to the trifecta package. Not to mention it probably will be cheaper.


The ghost cam idle is just sick especially when theres an echo it sounds crazy. But in regards to problems I have never heard of it. Think of it in a business aspect, if the company broke so many cars or were associated with it wouldn't their reputation be already known?
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I'm aware that HP Tuner produces more performance because I know people who have it but the trifecta tuner package is just better to me. I rather have that than an extra 10 hp... we're talking about hp increases that are equivalent to crumbs... not that significant.

So I understand where you are coming from, however the advantage in the other tune will be cool but not that significant compared to the trifecta package. Not to mention it probably will be cheaper.


The ghost cam idle is just sick especially when theres an echo it sounds crazy. But in regards to problems I have never heard of it. Think of it in a business aspect, if the company broke so many cars or were associated with it wouldn't their reputation be already known?
I think you misunderstand me, I am not saying anything about your choice in tuning software. Trifecta is a neat little setup, and if it works for you than cool, its your car so its also as you know, yours to do with as you see fit, but they are not even comparable in the market place in terms of user support and supported features. Its more of a novelty.
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I think you misunderstand me, I am not saying anything about your choice in tuning software. Trifecta is a neat little setup, and if it works for you than cool, its your car so its also as you know, yours to do with as you see fit, but they are not even comparable in the market place in terms of user support and supported features. Its more of a novelty.
The ghost cam itself being a novelty? That makes sense.

Its not a real cam, it doesn't have to be. Even if it was a real cam in my opinion I would get around 40-60HP (with a v8 engine) so its an increase and all but its nothing significant and on a v6 it would be much less. But thats my opinon, everyone has their own.
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I recently added the spectre air intake cold air intake and will be doing a dyno tune real soon. Thats how much im going to be expecting around. The tune takes advantage of better air intake (like most tunes)
Well im putting down 360 rwhp with boltons and a dyno tune. ...in a v8 . Your expectations are on the high side....dont be disappointed with alot lower number.....your cai will give you a few ..and a tune will give you a few but I dont see you coming anywhere near your target. Where did you get your numbers ? Are all your mods in your sig ? If so I think you need a few more parts to get to your goal.
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Old 11-30-2016, 09:10 AM   #14
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I would think around 275whp with intake/exhaust/tune.
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