Camaro VS Mustang Mega Thread

[Zeus]

Originally Posted by 1bad65

How about you learn how to read, and then comprehend it.

He said this, and I replied to it: "But I can't overlook the fact that they did nothing to improve the cars performance over a 2002 Camaro/Firebird until 2010."

Can you show me where the word "GTO" appeared in his post?

And why would Ford worry about the GTO anyway? GM already said it was a limited run car that would only run for 3 model years. And the GTO was also priced alot higher than a Mustang GT anyway.

Ike Turner is that you!?





Yes the Mustang had no Camaro to compete with.

Yes the Mustang had COMPETITION which all made the GT look underpowered.. (GTO, Charger R/T, 350z)

[1bad65]

Originally Posted by ssump29

Yeah stock they are fast, and be careful if you see one now because chances are its modded.

That's so true. At one of the bigger meets I sometimes go to the GTOs there are definately not stock.

[ironpeddler]

Speaking of weight, IF they do put an LSA in the Z28 which is 150+ lbs. more than the current LS3, and given the current weight of the SS, add on whatever upgraded parts that the Z28 will need to be able to handle more power it wouldn't be out of the question that the Z28 could weigh around 4100 lbs. or more. As it stands right now, unless they get rid of the independent rear suspension to save a couple hundred lbs., which I can't see happening the Z28 could be more of a tank than the Challenger, lol.

[1bad65]

Originally Posted by Zeus

Yes the Mustang had COMPETITION which all made the GT look underpowered.. (GTO, Charger R/T, 350z)

It had a good deal less hp than the GTO, yes. And the GTO was a good .5 second faster in the 1/4 mile. Good example.

But the other two cars you mentioned don't make the Stang look underpowered. It's actually neck-and-neck with the Charger in the 1/4 despite the hp difference, and the 350z is a bad example. It had LESS hp and torque than the Stang until 2007, and even then the Stang still has a good bit more torque. And the Stang weighs less too! So I don't see how a heavier car with less hp and torque can make the Mustang look "underpowered".

[fdjizm]

Do you plan on including the mechanical/quality issues in your paper or just conveniently "leaving that out" ?

you can write a paper based on bias one way fan talk ignoring all the issues. or maybe a paper on history, the truth or current events... your choice.

[meanmike]

Originally Posted by Zeus

Ike Turner is that you!?





Yes the Mustang had no Camaro to compete with.

Yes the Mustang had COMPETITION which all made the GT look underpowered.. (GTO, Charger R/T, 350z)

You cant hardly call it cometition when all of those car's combined may have equalled to half of the Mustang's sale's. And then if you want to go that rought then there was in fact the GT500 and it can be used in this case if your going to compare the Stang to the more exspensive car's GTO/350 and at that probably the charger as well.

[Jerseyrican88]

Originally Posted by fdjizm

Do you plan on including the mechanical/quality issues in your paper or just conveniently "leaving that out" ?

you can write a paper based on bias one way fan talk ignoring all the issues. or maybe a paper on history, the truth or current events... your choice.

im doing it on the current statis of the camaro and mustang. a history report would be overdoing it. my teacher doesnt want a long ass history report on the mustang or camaro. im just writing about them in the present day not the past

[REEFBLUE93]

Originally Posted by fdjizm

Do you plan on including the mechanical/quality issues in your paper or just conveniently "leaving that out" ?

you can write a paper based on bias one way fan talk ignoring all the issues. or maybe a paper on history, the truth or current events... your choice.

I think he'd mentioned earlier that he was writing the paper with regards to how the 2009/10 Mustang and 2009/10 Camaro match up against each other. There's not a whole lot to write about in the way of how many more mechanical issues one has versus the other. The Camaro was just relaunched this year. I think maybe pricing and performance comparisons would be the best and most hassle free way to approach this paper.

[fdjizm]

Originally Posted by Jerseyrican88

im doing it on the current statis of the camaro and mustang. a history report would be overdoing it. my teacher doesnt want a long ass history report on the mustang or camaro. im just writing about them in the present day not the past

Well then my question still stands, will you include the quality/mechanical/recall/TSB issues in your paper, if it is strictly about performance it would be better off. talk about handling, feel, performance numbers. etc..

[meanmike]

Originally Posted by REEFBLUE93

I think he'd mentioned earlier that he was writing the paper with regards to how the 2009/10 Mustang and 2009/10 Camaro match up against each other. There's not a whole lot to write about in the way of how many more mechanical issues one has versus the other. The Camaro was just relaunched this year. I think maybe pricing and performance comparisons would be the best and most hassle free way to approach this paper.

I just want to point out that there is no 2009 Camaro.

[1bad65]

Originally Posted by Jerseyrican88

im doing it on the current statis of the camaro and mustang. a history report would be overdoing it. my teacher doesnt want a long ass history report on the mustang or camaro. im just writing about them in the present day not the past

You have to come back on here after you get your grade on the paper and let us know how you did.

[Lee9710]

Originally Posted by ironpeddler

Speaking of weight, IF they do put an LSA in the Z28 which is 150+ lbs. more than the current LS3, and given the current weight of the SS, add on whatever upgraded parts that the Z28 will need to be able to handle more power it wouldn't be out of the question that the Z28 could weigh around 4100 lbs. or more. As it stands right now, unless they get rid of the independent rear suspension to save a couple hundred lbs., which I can't see happening the Z28 could be more of a tank than the Challenger, lol.

Very true......which is why I am just gonna put a supercharger in my SS with my other mods and call it a day. I think the SS will be much faster than the Z28 with this set up not to mention lighter by a significant amount. But a supercharger from the factory is still nice.

[Jerseyrican88]

Originally Posted by REEFBLUE93

I think he'd mentioned earlier that he was writing the paper with regards to how the 2009/10 Mustang and 2009/10 Camaro match up against each other. There's not a whole lot to write about in the way of how many more mechanical issues one has versus the other. The Camaro was just relaunched this year. I think maybe pricing and performance comparisons would be the best and most hassle free way to approach this paper.

this is exactly the way i was intending on writing the paper. thank you for pointing it out since ppl have been talking about the past for like 7 pages already lol

[Jerseyrican88]

Originally Posted by 1bad65

You have to come back on here after you get your grade on the paper and let us know how you did.

yea i will for sure