Wheel weights on my Camaro's calipers

[Rogue Leader]

Originally Posted by Captain Awesome

You guys need to take a chill pill.

As was posted above, the engineers evaluated the issue and came up with a fix. So the fix is a weight glued on? So what? Suddenly, everyone here is an adhesives engineer and can identify any adhesive by looking at a photograph of it?

Adhesives these days are used everywhere in cars, even in the structural members of cars. I bet there's a lot of pieces held on the Camaro by adhesives alone...

In fact, are not the brake pads glued to the metal backing plates on all cars these days? How come I don't see anyone flipping out about how "dangerous" this is?

How many other things can fall off or fly off and hurt someone? How about the side windows? Are they glued in? How come nobody is complaining about every other glued on piece and demanding an upgrade? Do we have faith in engineers design choices only selectively?

This is par for the course with a new model. Everyone should know this by now.

Whats holding the door-skin to the door on a 4thgen.... GLUE

[Rogue Leader]

Originally Posted by Bell040

....except..... now it is public knowledge that GM fixes brake noise by sticking wheel weights on brake calipers.... Brembo brake calipers...

Ok but there are other cars out there that just have the Brembo brake noise and do nothing about it. And apparently there are some models of caliper that the noise doesnt happen (such as on the GT500). GM did something about it.

[Scott@Bjorn3D]

It would be nice though if GM relpaced out the bad ones. I mean it seems that Brembo should be holding the bag on this one if they did not make them right.

[Supermans]

Originally Posted by Scott@Bjorn3D

It would be nice though if GM relpaced out the bad ones. I mean it seems that Brembo should be holding the bag on this one if they did not make them right.

I've been saying this all along, yet many of my posts were deleted early on and I got a warning so I stopped posting. However one last time I will say it again and I have a few people on here with the same feelings about this situation. It would be nice if GM would replace the ones with the "quick fix" if and only if ones exists where it is not needed in the future. I agree the ball may fall on Brembo here with the design perhaps however this has been tested since we first got the first SS spy photo of the black one with red Brembo's.

[Bell040]

Originally Posted by Scott@Bjorn3D

It would be nice though if GM relpaced out the bad ones. I mean it seems that Brembo should be holding the bag on this one if they did not make them right.

or come up with a better looking fix

[BLUEMARO]

Originally Posted by Captain Awesome

You guys need to take a chill pill.

As was posted above, the engineers evaluated the issue and came up with a fix. So the fix is a weight glued on? So what? Suddenly, everyone here is an adhesives engineer and can identify any adhesive by looking at a photograph of it?

Adhesives these days are used everywhere in cars, even in the structural members of cars. I bet there's a lot of pieces held on the Camaro by adhesives alone...

In fact, are not the brake pads glued to the metal backing plates on all cars these days? How come I don't see anyone flipping out about how "dangerous" this is?

How many other things can fall off or fly off and hurt someone? How about the side windows? Are they glued in? How come nobody is complaining about every other glued on piece and demanding an upgrade? Do we have faith in engineers design choices only selectively?

This is par for the course with a new model. Everyone should know this by now.

Yes, I agree. Everyone just chill out.

[iwannagofast]

Sheese... Man I agree everyone needs to take a chill pill and be thankful you got your Camaro before GM has to decide Bankruptcy or going through it the hard way. I'm still saving to hopefully get one this summer and decided to get an 2LT v6, for fuel mileage as I got a long commute and I'm thinking about putting on the SS brembro's or some other high performance brake. If they have to put weights on it so be it. I rather have an working car that doesn't squeak coming to a stop. Do you know how embarassing that would be rolling up to the light and a loud squeak comes out next to someone that was digging your Camaro, but now is laughing as you got a bucket of bolts. GM did this for a reason and that is image. Plus since these are close to what us few may ever get into a road racing car just write it off as the crew chief put them on there for better weight distribution.

[Sierra]

Originally Posted by renderinfo

I have a different perspective on all this. If you are a proud owner of an SS, and you happen to be LUCKY ENOUGH to get an early production release version, with a low VIN number, and the calipers with weights, and you leave the callipers alone...

You have a collector's item!!!! From the factory, a bona-fide "one of the first to be produced" SS Camaro!!! Assumiing everything works "as advertised", and you maintain this car immaculately, in 10+ years, your car will BE UNIQUE. Unique even among camaros. It already looks and drives awesome, the reviews bear that out. Whether or not this car is super popular, or not produced in a few years, having an ORIGINAL SS CAMARO with weights over the calipers makes your car special! I gotta believe that "later fixed versions" of the camaro just won't be as special to those core Camaro enthusiasts or collectors. I hope some people are smart enough to not mess with this, and you will truly have a rare excellent car...

Just my two cents...

stupid question...... i thought the calipers were going to be red?

[Fandango]

Anyone of you collect Star Wars figures, commic books, rare watches, cars, etc? I do and I'm a Dork and I'm proud of it. I'm sitting on tons of rare stuff. (too bad I just can't get rid of this Mark and Jose '88 tops leader card right now.)

You few thousand or so that got that distinguishing characteristic on your brakes are, lack for a better word,

Lucky!!!

The good news is that now you have the most rare of Camaros. First editions of anything are hard to come by. We are ushering in a new era of cars, fuel conservation, going green, economics, and what have you. Could you imagine, and I really hope not, that these cars are going to be the last of the Muscle car as we know it. This may be the last of its kind. Say, in about 20 or 30 years, if you have a Camaro with that little flaw that makes it diferent from all the others? You have yourself a collectors item. With that being said:

DON'T GET THE WEIGHTS REMOVED OR REPLACE THE BRAKES!!

This is your lucky day. For those of you with a 1977 C-3PO figure with the wrong color leg still in its package in mint condition, you will know what I'm taking about.

Trust me. All the guys out there with the break weights. You are golden. Go to GM or someone who's good with authentication and get the VIN, brakes parts #, and document it. That's a cirtificate of Authenticity.

Hope you all like that bit of Advice. I have a Samsung Matrix phone(from the movie) that they only made 500 of, its marked with an edition number, still in package, never been opened or activated. There be my down payment for the Z/28.

Word to your mother, a sealed Vanilla Ice caset single with the wrong spelling of "baby". For some reason the y got left out. But now one seems to want it.

[PQ]

Think of it this way, years from now you can say "Yup, it even has the original lead weights on the calipers".

[Toons]

Originally Posted by Bell040

or came up with a better looking fix

It IS a bizzare fix, I would think a better answer would have been to leave the calipers alone and deal with customers on a one-to one basis if they should bring the car in with a complaint about brake noise or vibration.

[CamaroSSforme]

Originally Posted by Pushing_Tin

Show me any other "high performance cars" that have this sort of quality engineering. One Porsche, Ferrari, M series Bimmer, just one.

Why wasn't careful evaluation and validation done one, two or three years ago when the car was testing?

I love these classic false logic statements. Since you haven't own any of these I'd submit, kindly, that you have no clue what you are talking about.

Here we have yet another mountain out of a molehill.

I have owned a BMW. I've been on BMW threads just like this one. I've heard the exact same nonsense from members there. Same with the Subaru threads, the Lexus thread (there it was always - "This is the first sign that Lexus quality is going to crap!!!") Funny stuff.

Go grab a beer and take a chill pill...also stick around car forums other than Camaro before making inane comments.

[Rizzo]

From Edmunds:

Camaro Brake Weights Nothing New, BMW Does It Too
http://blogs.edmunds.com/straightlin...es-it-too.html

[Jamie Mac]

Originally Posted by SNOOK

Also as reported on Frontpage Blog

Anybody know what the deal is on the stack of wheel weights on both front calipers on the 2010 with brembo's? I will try to attach a picture.

UPDATE:

OFFICIAL ANSWER FROM JOHN FITZPATRICK:

Some early Camaro customers noticed that there are weights on the Camaro SS calipers. With high-performance vehicles like the Camaro SS, minor brake noise is not uncommon. The weights act as a damper to reduce noise in certain driving conditions. This was done after careful evaluation and validation by our engineering team. These weights will only be added to early builds of the Camaro SS.

Congrats to all they guys with collector weights!