12 SS vs 12 5.0

[wnt2gofst]

Originally Posted by WHAMMO

Well only from your sight everything Ford is faster from the start. I'm pretty sure it burns inside you to say 4th gen were a tie with the 4.6

4.6 sucked. Only 4.6 I owned was a 98 cobra. Which with cai, x pipe slower then a SS that was stock. But couldn't find a SS that I liked in 01 when I bought it.

After that I actually owned more GM then Ford. Hell I would most likely still have my G8 if two people wouldn't have decided to take half the front off then 6 months later half the back.

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[PQ]

Originally Posted by wnt2gofst

Everyone considers stall a bolt on just like a clutch.

And if took you two days to put blower on you need help. Took me about 7 hours. About 3 hours for my stall. Hell headers are harder to install then a stall.

But a blower/Turbo/nitrous isn't a bolt on its a power adder least your right there.
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I don't need any help at all. I got it done just fine. I took my time and enjoyed it.

Doesn't matter, you went over my 2 hour criteria for the stall. NOT a bolt on.

I know guys who consider a blower a bolt on. After all, you don't have to take anything apart to add one.

[VADER SS L99]

Originally Posted by wnt2gofst

Only on GM sights.

Oh and the 1LE a friend bought it. Got rid of her v6 camaro for it.

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WTF ever bro. 85-92 debateable, could make a whole thread on which is faster stock and modded. If I am able to count the GN from 85-87 then not debateable for those years. 93-02 not debateable. GM was destroying Ford model for model year for year. It want even close. If you think the pushrod 5.0 and 2v 4.6 was faster than the LT1 you are in a fantasy land.

[Deki]

Originally Posted by VADER SS L99

WTF ever bro. 85-92 debateable, could make a whole thread on which is faster stock and modded. If I am able to count the GN from 85-87 then not debateable for those years. 93-02 not debateable. GM was destroying Ford model for model year for year. It want even close. If you think the pushrod 5.0 and 2v 4.6 was faster than the LT1 you are in a fantasy land.

I agree, Chevy was the leader in performance for sure, but only in a straight line. When it came to every day use, cornering, and quality, Ford led the way, hence the reason why it outsold the Fbody 4 to 1, and still 2 to 1 when you combine Camaro and Firebird sales. LT1 and LS1 did not have a contender to compete with until 2003, a year after they were discontinued, and the year the Terminators came out. That being said, in my youth, I cared about straight line speed, hence the reason why I owned a 98 Z28

[Deki]

Originally Posted by bluebeastsrt

Nobody considers a stall a bolt on you dipshit. A CAI is a bolt on. A cat back is a bolt on. Once you have to drop the tranny or start tearing the engine apart you've gone past bolt-on. Just because everything is held on a car with bolts doesn't mean your using the term correctly.

lol

[wnt2gofst]

Originally Posted by bluebeastsrt

Nobody considers a stall a bolt on you dipshit. A CAI is a bolt on. A cat back is a bolt on. Once you have to drop the tranny or start tearing the engine apart you've gone past bolt-on. Just because everything is held on a car with bolts doesn't mean your using the term correctly.

Every one does you retard. Only some one like you wouldn't consider it a bolt on. Hell even every other site including LS1tech/Corvette forums/G8 forums consider it a bolt on. There is no tearing the engine apart for the stall. Hell there was no tearing the engine apart for my blower. But as said blower is not a bolt on. But I guess it could be a bolt on if was just doing a stock blower swap for another. Even tat is pushing it. But sorry your failing and have to rule out a stall cause your retarded. Let me guess you consider a clutch ok though? And just like gears youch oil they are still a bolt on.

[13SS]

Originally Posted by wnt2gofst

Really 74-10? Cs biggest thing you did was screw self since GM stopped making the freaking camaro dumbass. And then original 5.0's. GM was getting waxed still till the ls1 came out.

On side note test drived this. Great improvement over a regular SS. Now if wife learns to drive a manual
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[wnt2gofst]

Originally Posted by 13SS

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WOW...so you can't when so you go to grammar. Great job didn't know we was on a English Grammar Forum. Your so smart I bet you drive a fast car. Oh wait you drive a camaro.

[newmoon]

Originally Posted by WHAMMO

30rwhp with a cam? lol, like a GM hot cam!! Minimum 50rwhp. 50-80rwhp is more like it.

Op already has 429 to the wheels the way the car sits now, you are telling me nothing changing other than a cam swap is going to add another 80-rwhp, bringing his total to 509 rwhp, without head work or a very happy dyno? Must be a magical cam!

[VADER SS L99]

I consider a stall to be a bolt on.
As to the OP having 429RWHP with LT's, cai and a tune? Must be a happy dyno. with his mods and a cam like the Night Fury he will see 480-500RWHP dyno jet SAE corrected. Would also be good for 120mph+ trap speeds in near 0 DA.

[debro7046]

Originally Posted by VADER SS L99

I consider a stall to be a bolt on.
As to the OP having 429RWHP with LT's, cai and a tune? Must be a happy dyno. with his mods and a cam like the Night Fury he will see 480-500RWHP dyno jet SAE corrected. Would also be good for 120mph+ trap speeds in near 0 DA.

OP/Ehab got his headers at eastcoast supercharging and they said it dyno'd higher then other camaro's will the same setup. He's getting the cam installed today. Chris from ECS told him to expect 480-490 rwhp. 120+ trap seems like a big gain for just a cam when he was only doing 113+ in negative DA. I can't wait to see the results when he hits the track

[MagnumForceGB]

Originally Posted by bluebeastsrt

Nobody considers a stall a bolt on you dipshit. A CAI is a bolt on. A cat back is a bolt on. Once you have to drop the tranny or start tearing the engine apart you've gone past bolt-on. Just because everything is held on a car with bolts doesn't mean your using the term correctly.

Can I say I have a strap-on if I use tie down straps to hold parts on my car?

[VADER SS L99]

Originally Posted by debro7046

OP/Ehab got his headers at eastcoast supercharging and they said it dyno'd higher then other camaro's will the same setup. He's getting the cam installed today. Chris from ECS told him to expect 480-490 rwhp. 120+ trap seems like a big gain for just a cam when he was only doing 113+ in negative DA. I can't wait to see the results when he hits the track

If he was only doing 113mph traps in negative DA with 429RWHP then he needs some serious help shifting and launching. I don't know about other cars but when I blow my launch and get a 2.0+ 60ft my trap is always 2mph+ slower than when I nail my launch and get a 1.8 60ft or better. I have a auto car but I would imagine that a certain shifting technique could also play a huge role in trap speed as well as DA. If he is short shifting and doing it slowly I would imagine it would for sure hurt trap speed as well as ET. Sounds like he just needs more practice or a different driver. I would really encourage some drag radials as well with that much power otherwise it may not do much good.

[wnt2gofst]

Originally Posted by bluebeastsrt

Dude kill yourself now. How many guys beside you (because we've already determined your a master mechanic and the worlds fastest drag racer nobodys has ever heard of.) actually install their own torque converter? I'm pretty much done with you enjoy the camaro forums.

A lot guys do their own work. Then again a lot guys probably like you don't do their own cold air or exhaust. And master mechanic. Nope. But I know enough to get me by. I rebuild this stuff at work and teach how to do it.




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