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SSGUNNER · 09-10-2013, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by thahemp

Nope.

Cool. Thnx.

MikeMoach · 09-10-2013, 04:12 PM

I don't care if I break the shroud but what's the easiest way to take it off with out taking everything apart?

thahemp · 09-10-2013, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeMoach

I don't care if I break the shroud but what's the easiest way to take it off with out taking everything apart?

You have to take everything apart. It's not that bad.

You have to pull the coil pack brackets and fuel rails. Then you can pull the rubber strap and pull the bolts out of the manifold. Then use some pliers to loosen the clamp on the brake booster where it connects to the reservoir on the firewall and pull the hose off. It's just a vacuum hose.

Be careful when you pull the manifold out. The brake booster hose wraps around the back side of the cam position sensor. You just have to make sure you lift the manifold/hose up and over the sensor without getting hung up.

I had mine out and back installed in about an hour. You'll need a GM fuel line release tool. $4 at O'Reillys IIRC.

MikeMoach · 09-10-2013, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by thahemp

You have to take everything apart. It's not that bad.

You have to pull the coil pack brackets and fuel rails. Then you can pull the rubber strap and pull the bolts out of the manifold. Then use some pliers to loosen the clamp on the brake booster where it connects to the reservoir on the firewall and pull the hose off. It's just a vacuum hose.

Be careful when you pull the manifold out. The brake booster hose wraps around the back side of the cam position sensor. You just have to make sure you lift the manifold/hose up and over the sensor without getting hung up.

I had mine out and back installed in about an hour. You'll need a GM fuel line release tool. $4 at O'Reillys IIRC.

I knew that was the answer I was gunna get, do you know of any instructions I could look at and use to help me?

thahemp · 09-10-2013, 04:52 PM

http://www.techafx.com/sites/techafx...structions.pdf

It's not exactly what you're after, but it does have instructions for removing the manifold in there a ways. It's just simple wrenching. You'll be fine once you get going. Just go slow when you're ready to start pulling the manifold off the top of the engine (or sliding it out the front I should say). The back 2 bolts will want to keep falling back in their holes. A towel under the fuel rail disconnect is a good idea too. It'll spill a little fuel when you separate the lines.

thahemp · 09-10-2013, 04:55 PM

Tighten the bolts from the center out when you reinstall it... being careful not to over tighten. I don't know if that pdf has the torque specs, but it's not much.

MikeMoach · 09-10-2013, 05:11 PM

Thanks hemp I appreciate that, I know this is gunna be more then an hour job just to take out making sure I do it right but one more question

Lets say when I get the shroud off there's a crack under it, can I fix it? Is there some sort of plastic weld I can use or do I need a new one?

Nightmare2012 · 09-10-2013, 05:22 PM

Mr hemp the diy dojo where you been you been quite quiet these past few days.

thahemp · 09-10-2013, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeMoach

Thanks hemp I appreciate that, I know this is gunna be more then an hour job just to take out making sure I do it right but one more question

Lets say when I get the shroud off there's a crack under it, can I fix it? Is there some sort of plastic weld I can use or do I need a new one?

I would be very surprised if you found a crack. It might be worth your while to really check the hoses you have access to for EVAP and PCV without taking the mani off. The only thing you're gonna find under the mani is a blown/pinched intake port gasket. I don't think a new manifold is all that expensive either. I bet you can find someone around here that replaced theirs with a FAST or something similar.

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Originally Posted by Nightmare2012

Mr hemp the diy dojo where you been you been quite quiet these past few days.

Busy busy! We did a car show on Saturday. Mowing + family dinner Sunday. Tried to fix my little brother's car + more mowing last night. Fellow local camaro club member catback install tonight. Lots of cars and mowing! Not such a bad deal.

thahemp · 09-10-2013, 05:32 PM

Oh, and Mike... you're taking the whole manifold out if you think you need to. You can pull the shroud if you want (once it's out), but you'll find nothing but a layer of insulation and more plastic underneath.

Nightmare2012 · 09-10-2013, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by thahemp

Busy busy! We did a car show on Saturday. Mowing + family dinner Sunday. Tried to fix my little brother's car + more mowing last night. Fellow local camaro club member catback install tonight. Lots of cars and mowing! Not such a bad deal.

That does sound like a busy+fun schedule except the mowing part haha I tried to retrofit my friends truck k&n into his v6 Camaro the other day and the project is still going on he is very cheap lol

Nightmare2012 · 09-10-2013, 05:42 PM

And I got some plastidipping to do when I get home lol just did my fronts

MikeMoach · 09-10-2013, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by thahemp

Oh, and Mike... you're taking the whole manifold out if you think you need to. You can pull the shroud if you want (once it's out), but you'll find nothing but a layer of insulation and more plastic underneath.

Yes I understand thank you, I've checked almost everything had a couple friends check also, the only thing we have done to make the hissing/whistling change is move the shroud so that's why I would think something under there is cracked

thahemp · 09-10-2013, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightmare2012

That does sound like a busy+fun schedule except the mowing part haha I tried to retrofit my friends truck k&n into his v6 Camaro the other day and the project is still going on he is very cheap lol

Haha. I bet that will run like shit

! Does the MAF fit? Is it even close to the same location?

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Originally Posted by MikeMoach

Yes I understand thank you, I've checked almost everything had a couple friends check also, the only thing we have done to make the hissing/whistling change is move the shroud so that's why I would think something under there is cracked

Hopefully you're able to find it once you get in there. High pitched noises suck balls to chase down. They really do come from everywhere.

09-10-2013, 04:52 PM	#5703
thahemp Geek Drives: 2012 Black LS3 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Derby, KS Posts: 4,343 View My Garage	http://www.techafx.com/sites/techafx...structions.pdf It's not exactly what you're after, but it does have instructions for removing the manifold in there a ways. It's just simple wrenching. You'll be fine once you get going. Just go slow when you're ready to start pulling the manifold off the top of the engine (or sliding it out the front I should say). The back 2 bolts will want to keep falling back in their holes. A towel under the fuel rail disconnect is a good idea too. It'll spill a little fuel when you separate the lines. __________________ 01000111011011110110111101100100001000000110110001 11010101100011011010110010000001110111011010010111 01000110100000100000011101000110100001101001011100 110010000001101111011011100110010100100001 x = ac97968bd3df8f968c8cd3df998a9c94d3df9c8a918bd3df9c 909c94df8c8a9c949a8dd3df92908b979a8ddf998a9c949a8d d3df8b968b8cd1 x = ~x

09-10-2013, 04:55 PM	#5704
thahemp Geek Drives: 2012 Black LS3 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Derby, KS Posts: 4,343 View My Garage	Tighten the bolts from the center out when you reinstall it... being careful not to over tighten. I don't know if that pdf has the torque specs, but it's not much. __________________ 01000111011011110110111101100100001000000110110001 11010101100011011010110010000001110111011010010111 01000110100000100000011101000110100001101001011100 110010000001101111011011100110010100100001 x = ac97968bd3df8f968c8cd3df998a9c94d3df9c8a918bd3df9c 909c94df8c8a9c949a8dd3df92908b979a8ddf998a9c949a8d d3df8b968b8cd1 x = ~x

09-10-2013, 05:32 PM	#5708
thahemp Geek Drives: 2012 Black LS3 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Derby, KS Posts: 4,343 View My Garage	Oh, and Mike... you're taking the whole manifold out if you think you need to. You can pull the shroud if you want (once it's out), but you'll find nothing but a layer of insulation and more plastic underneath. __________________ 01000111011011110110111101100100001000000110110001 11010101100011011010110010000001110111011010010111 01000110100000100000011101000110100001101001011100 110010000001101111011011100110010100100001 x = ac97968bd3df8f968c8cd3df998a9c94d3df9c8a918bd3df9c 909c94df8c8a9c949a8dd3df92908b979a8ddf998a9c949a8d d3df8b968b8cd1 x = ~x

09-10-2013, 05:42 PM	#5710
Nightmare2012 come find out;) Drives: stockish 2012 camaro ss Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: speed county Posts: 2,166 View My Garage	And I got some plastidipping to do when I get home lol just did my fronts Attached Images

09-10-2013, 04:12 PM	#5700
MikeMoach Drives: 2010 RJT 2SS/RS Join Date: May 2012 Location: Staten Island, NY Posts: 1,354	I don't care if I break the shroud but what's the easiest way to take it off with out taking everything apart?

09-10-2013, 05:11 PM	#5705
MikeMoach Drives: 2010 RJT 2SS/RS Join Date: May 2012 Location: Staten Island, NY Posts: 1,354	Thanks hemp I appreciate that, I know this is gunna be more then an hour job just to take out making sure I do it right but one more question Lets say when I get the shroud off there's a crack under it, can I fix it? Is there some sort of plastic weld I can use or do I need a new one?

09-10-2013, 05:22 PM	#5706
Nightmare2012 come find out;) Drives: stockish 2012 camaro ss Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: speed county Posts: 2,166 View My Garage	Mr hemp the diy dojo where you been you been quite quiet these past few days.