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supasport · 02-04-2014, 07:08 PM

they are stupid and dont want to deal with your problem
lazy americans.
reminds me of when i was misfiring and had 6mpg reading and i showed them and they said it was normal.. really?

jewel25 · 02-04-2014, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by supasport

they are stupid and dont want to deal with your problem
lazy americans.
reminds me of when i was misfiring and had 6mpg reading and i showed them and they said it was normal.. really?

or they want the problem to escalate further so they can get more money out of you.

christianchevell · 02-04-2014, 07:13 PM

It could be a number of things from a cracked spark plug to a plug wire or sensor wire being loose, it could also be because something really bad is going to happen on the horizon and it just gave you a heads up......... No misfires are not normal on a new fuel injected car. I had a 2006 ford f15o Harley truck had a misfire..plug was cracked, turns out they made two piece plugs, and it cost $20 a plug and they over estimated the life of the plugs being in the engine, I had 65k on it and they were supposed to last until 100k....they revised that and now coat the plugs tips with goo to help stop them form breaking off in the head when you try to change them as they build up so much carbon on them. Cost me way too much...like $460 for a spark plug change as they had to camera and suction four broken plugs out when doing the tune up at the ford dealer. And I think it might have been more, cannot remember just wanted to ditch it though it was a great ride the thing sucked gas and was not a real powerful motor like 300 h.p. for a 5.4, ( the next model year they supercharged them as they were lame .) Just a story and a word to the wise one misfire can lead to another and another......... Or a trade in to a Camaro.

Dubscamaro · 02-04-2014, 08:07 PM

My 14 does this all the time...I get an on star diagnostic ASAP when it turns flashing. But it might just be the gay gas cap sensor

Dubscamaro · 02-04-2014, 08:09 PM

After reading all of these posts...is the diagnostic from on star lying? I haven't talked to the dealer yet but it's only happened twice on my 14 for about 8 seconds

PalmerGA · 02-04-2014, 08:24 PM

Well, I've never had the problem so I didn't answer the poll. But if "normal" is their way of saying 'it happens all the time', that doesn't make it right.

I recall complaining about the "normal" notorious dead spot in the 1,000-1,500 rpm range of my 2012 1LT. The cure came along (at my expense, of course) in the form of the VMax CNC Ported Throttle Body. This begged the question: why couldn't GM have done that to their throttle bodies from the factory, and why isn't it a warranty fix to cure the "dead spot"? The short answer I got from GM was: "The factory throttle body meets the design specs". Well hell... that may be, but it doesn't make it right. It was obviously an engineering flaw in the LFX engine design which GM did not care to address - no doubt due to the cost to repair it.

So, while the misfire would certainly not be "normal", you may have a difficult time getting it corrected under warranty. I would continue to complain about it and document the responses you get when you take it to the shop. Good luck with it.

jdsblueray2013 · 02-04-2014, 09:23 PM

Are you the original owner of the car?

Denis · 02-04-2014, 09:34 PM

Look at it like this, if it was normal would it throw a CEL? Probably not. Find another dealer.

The Blue Angel · 02-05-2014, 12:24 AM

Dfault · 02-05-2014, 12:39 AM

So then, it must be normal for your toes to be pointed in the opposite direction from your face?

If so, then missfires must be normal!

JCunningham · 02-05-2014, 01:08 AM

report this dealer to GM please. dont let them do this to some one else. A CEL is never normal and should be addressed immediately. dont drive it around until fixed. I would ask another dealer to toe it to there dealership for a flashing CEL. this is a perfect thread for one of the service reps on here. give them your info.

PQ · 02-05-2014, 01:59 AM

Did the CEL go away? Did the dealer check it and find no codes? Did they look at it at all?

AKA-22 · 02-05-2014, 08:55 AM

....during the sub zero temps we had in Missouri last week my car sat in my garage for a week ..started car last day and pulled it out to the driveway, sat about 2 hours then started it again to pull back in and it sounded like a different car, a deeper sound like i had a ghost cam in it..i noticed the flashing cel and quickly turned car off ..Started it again and it started normal and has not did it again ....dealer said that several camaro r reporting the same thing and its normal and Chevrolet has not figured it out...my dealer is not an idiot hes actually a friend and a real stickler when it comes to this kind of problem ...

BaylorCamaro · 02-05-2014, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by PQ

Did the CEL go away? Did the dealer check it and find no codes? Did they look at it at all?

CEL coming on isn't normal..

View Poll Results: Have Had misfire and think its normal or a problem
Normal	8	3.25%
Problem	238	96.75%
Voters: 246. You may not vote on this poll

02-04-2014, 07:08 PM	#15
supasport Drives: 2010 camaro ss Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: jersey Posts: 468	they are stupid and dont want to deal with your problem lazy americans. reminds me of when i was misfiring and had 6mpg reading and i showed them and they said it was normal.. really? __________________

02-04-2014, 07:13 PM	#17
christianchevell old school chevy rodder Drives: 2021 zl1 a-10 WildCherry Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Oregon Posts: 5,622 View My Garage	It could be a number of things from a cracked spark plug to a plug wire or sensor wire being loose, it could also be because something really bad is going to happen on the horizon and it just gave you a heads up......... No misfires are not normal on a new fuel injected car. I had a 2006 ford f15o Harley truck had a misfire..plug was cracked, turns out they made two piece plugs, and it cost $20 a plug and they over estimated the life of the plugs being in the engine, I had 65k on it and they were supposed to last until 100k....they revised that and now coat the plugs tips with goo to help stop them form breaking off in the head when you try to change them as they build up so much carbon on them. Cost me way too much...like $460 for a spark plug change as they had to camera and suction four broken plugs out when doing the tune up at the ford dealer. And I think it might have been more, cannot remember just wanted to ditch it though it was a great ride the thing sucked gas and was not a real powerful motor like 300 h.p. for a 5.4, ( the next model year they supercharged them as they were lame .) Just a story and a word to the wise one misfire can lead to another and another......... Or a trade in to a Camaro. __________________ 2021 Wild Cherry ZL1 A10, Sunroof, Data,Red Carbon Interior, Nav, RotoFab Big Gulp , Elite x2ultra, Borla ATAK, Driveshaft shop, BMR susp, Speed covers, intercoolers, ATI , 2650 MAG, DSX lid, 103 NW, TSP Longtubes & cats, LPE, 1le mods, ,LME cover, Katech pump and chain, Trunnions, BTR stage 2, LPE boostapump, Gforce, Speed eng , Granetteli, etc etc

02-04-2014, 08:07 PM	#18
Dubscamaro Living Life in MPH. Drives: 15 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Arizona Posts: 1,114 View My Garage	My 14 does this all the time...I get an on star diagnostic ASAP when it turns flashing. But it might just be the gay gas cap sensor __________________ Devon W.

02-04-2014, 08:09 PM	#19
Dubscamaro Living Life in MPH. Drives: 15 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Arizona Posts: 1,114 View My Garage	After reading all of these posts...is the diagnostic from on star lying? I haven't talked to the dealer yet but it's only happened twice on my 14 for about 8 seconds __________________ Devon W.

02-04-2014, 08:24 PM	#20
PalmerGA Drives: 2013 SIM 1SS/RS L99 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Southwest GA Posts: 8,754 View My Garage	Well, I've never had the problem so I didn't answer the poll. But if "normal" is their way of saying 'it happens all the time', that doesn't make it right. I recall complaining about the "normal" notorious dead spot in the 1,000-1,500 rpm range of my 2012 1LT. The cure came along (at my expense, of course) in the form of the VMax CNC Ported Throttle Body. This begged the question: why couldn't GM have done that to their throttle bodies from the factory, and why isn't it a warranty fix to cure the "dead spot"? The short answer I got from GM was: "The factory throttle body meets the design specs". Well hell... that may be, but it doesn't make it right. It was obviously an engineering flaw in the LFX engine design which GM did not care to address - no doubt due to the cost to repair it. So, while the misfire would certainly not be "normal", you may have a difficult time getting it corrected under warranty. I would continue to complain about it and document the responses you get when you take it to the shop. Good luck with it. __________________ 2013 1SS/RS Coupe L99, Stainless Power Works LT Headers, SCT X4 Custom Tune from RDP, CAI Inc. Air Intake w/ Apex Scoop, VMAX CNC Ported Throttle Body, Solo Axle-Back Exhaust w/ J-pipes, Apex Catch Can, Husky Splash Guards, Heritage Grille, 3D Carbon Rear Spoiler, Oracle Chrome Turn Signal Bulbs, GM Reverse Light Trim Billets, Gorilla Black Locking Lugs, Emblem Pros Retro SS Badges/Custom Retro SS Kickplates/Under-hood Bowtie, 35% window Tint, Nitto Motivo Tires (6-8-18)

02-04-2014, 09:23 PM	#21
jdsblueray2013 Drives: 2013 Camaro 2ssrs Blue Ray Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Chi town, south suburbs Posts: 612 View My Garage	Are you the original owner of the car?

02-04-2014, 09:34 PM	#22
Denis Drives: 2010 SS Join Date: May 2012 Location: Yorktown Heights, NY Posts: 7,695 View My Garage	Look at it like this, if it was normal would it throw a CEL? Probably not. Find another dealer. __________________

02-05-2014, 12:24 AM	#23
The Blue Angel Drives: 2014 BRM 1SS/RS Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Tampa, Fl Posts: 1,058	__________________ 2014 Blue Ray Metallic 1SS/RS A Road Warrior

02-05-2014, 12:39 AM	#24
Dfault Drives: 2014 Camaro SS Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Waco, TX Posts: 988	So then, it must be normal for your toes to be pointed in the opposite direction from your face? If so, then missfires must be normal!

02-05-2014, 01:08 AM	#25
JCunningham Drives: 2017 2SS M6 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: WNY Posts: 7,069	report this dealer to GM please. dont let them do this to some one else. A CEL is never normal and should be addressed immediately. dont drive it around until fixed. I would ask another dealer to toe it to there dealership for a flashing CEL. this is a perfect thread for one of the service reps on here. give them your info. __________________ real ZL1 wheels and brakes, 285/305 Michelin Pilot Super Sports, Pray ported Intake manifold, Soler Throttle Body, Rotofab intake, EFI Tuning Flex fuel kit, full American Racing Headers Exhaust, 1 7/8" w/ cats H pipe and mufflers. Full 1LE suspension, with BMR adjustable sway bars and links, GM aluminum cradle bushings, Hurst shifter with lighter reverse spring, TWM shifter knob, Tick level 1 transmission. I should have bought a ZL1

02-05-2014, 01:59 AM	#26
PQ Booooosted. Drives: 2010 Supercharged SS Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 36,717 View My Garage	Did the CEL go away? Did the dealer check it and find no codes? Did they look at it at all? __________________

02-05-2014, 08:55 AM	#27
AKA-22 Drives: ELLE-1 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Farmington ,mo Posts: 1,175	....during the sub zero temps we had in Missouri last week my car sat in my garage for a week ..started car last day and pulled it out to the driveway, sat about 2 hours then started it again to pull back in and it sounded like a different car, a deeper sound like i had a ghost cam in it..i noticed the flashing cel and quickly turned car off ..Started it again and it started normal and has not did it again ....dealer said that several camaro r reporting the same thing and its normal and Chevrolet has not figured it out...my dealer is not an idiot hes actually a friend and a real stickler when it comes to this kind of problem ... __________________