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litle88 · 02-08-2014, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SPCBA

Are any of you cam/heads guys running a treated or aftermarket throttlebody or intake mani? Kind of tired of seeing the fake dyno or buttdyno posts for these....

Martin at Tick told me personally to save my money and have BER (Bare essential racing port my intake) no need for a FAST even with my stroker build.

How you been BUD we miss you around here! Hows the car?

SPCBA · 02-08-2014, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by litle88

Martin at Tick told me personally to save my money and have BER (Bare essential racing port my intake) no need for a FAST even with my stroker build.

How you been BUD we miss you around here! Hows the car?

I dont have enough displacement for a fast. Car is good. Murica means affordable parts when you break it

rberns · 02-08-2014, 07:00 PM

What exactly is a stroker? Does it have something to do with boring out your cylinder heads and making the larger?

litle88 · 02-08-2014, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by rberns

What exactly is a stroker? Does it have something to do with boring out your cylinder heads and making the larger?

On aluminum LsX motors you cannot bore them out because of the iron sleeves in them. Only the iron Ls motors like the LsX block, the iron 6.0 and iron 5.3's.

So when we stroke them we buy a crank that has a longer stroke making the piston travel down the bore further increasing the volume of air that will be sucked in.

Stock Ls strokes are 3.66 and most strikers are 4.0. But you'll need specific pistons for that too.

mikeyg36 · 02-08-2014, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by rberns

What exactly is a stroker? Does it have something to do with boring out your cylinder heads and making the larger?

An engines displacement is bore (size of cylinder) multiplied by the stroke (the distance the piston travels).

thahemp · 02-08-2014, 10:48 PM

Actually it's pi x the bore radius squared x stroke.

mikeyg36 · 02-09-2014, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by thahemp

Actually it's pi x the bore radius squared x stroke.

Close enough

rberns · 02-09-2014, 01:17 AM

Getting closer. Just ordered from BTR cam retainer plate, ls2 dampner, and comp cam trunion upgrade. I already have lifters, lifter trays, valley cover, and front timing cover. I think all I need left after this in C5R chain, 10296 pump, stall converter, BTR custom grind kit, and my head gaskets kit (which I think comes with water pump gasket and some ARP head bolts). I see a lot of people putting transmission coolers on but I am hoping I can just do this another time. Especially since I don't drag race I figure I will be alright.

Brings me to another question. Im getting a new chain and dampner. Do I need a different timing gear or is stock good to go? I see that BTR custom grind cam is good for a 24x or 58x timing gear. Which one do I have (L99).

joplatinum · 02-09-2014, 01:24 AM

ls3 conversion .. whats the fuss all about .. is it worth it !? or should i juat do heads and cam !?

K1SSRSS · 02-09-2014, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by thahemp

Actually it's pi x the bore radius squared x stroke.

Umm yea, diameter of the bore x the stroke. Don't think anybody refers to the size of the bore by it's radius except maybe those import guys

rberns · 02-09-2014, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by joplatinum

ls3 conversion .. whats the fuss all about .. is it worth it !? or should i juat do heads and cam !?

Are you an L99 or LS3? If are an L99 you have 2 ways you can go. Either VVT or LS3 conversion. VVT has shown to make better power over LS3. For my own reasons I am going with the LS3 conversion so I can install a LS3 cam. If you plan on going VVT you need to get with Rhino79.

axis · 02-09-2014, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by SPCBA

Are any of you cam/heads guys running a treated or aftermarket throttlebody or intake mani? Kind of tired of seeing the fake dyno or buttdyno posts for these....

If you're going to port your intake, i'd HIGHLY recommend calling Rhino to see what he can do for you. He does something that I don't think anyone else is doing. His own intake has it done so i'm sure it's helping.

thahemp · 02-09-2014, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by K1SSRSS

Umm yea, diameter of the bore x the stroke. Don't think anybody refers to the size of the bore by it's radius except maybe those import guys

Volume of a cylinder is not width x height. Radius squared is not the same as diameter.

K1SSRSS · 02-09-2014, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by thahemp

Volume of a cylinder is not width x height. Radius squared is not the same as diameter.

That's what I get for trying to be a smartass when I'm drunk.

at least my spelling was decent

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Anyway here's the formula I use when I'm not drunk. .7854 x ((d)^2) x stroke let's you use diameter instead of radius.

02-08-2014, 07:00 PM	#9033
rberns Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: US Posts: 3,291 View My Garage	What exactly is a stroker? Does it have something to do with boring out your cylinder heads and making the larger? __________________ 2011 Camaro 2SS/RS, Circle D 3200, ADM Transmission Cooler, BTR Valvetrain, Cam Motion .621 .595 228/244 113+4, ARH 1 7/8 full exhaust, Cold Air Inductions, Katech C5R TC, Melling HV, BTR SLR lifters, Trunion Upgrade, LS2 Dampner, LS9 head gaskets, Bo White PTB, MM can, GFX, Subs, B&M Deep transmission pan, Holley fuel rail, Proform valve covers, relocated coil packs

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02-09-2014, 01:17 AM	#9038
rberns Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: US Posts: 3,291 View My Garage	Getting closer. Just ordered from BTR cam retainer plate, ls2 dampner, and comp cam trunion upgrade. I already have lifters, lifter trays, valley cover, and front timing cover. I think all I need left after this in C5R chain, 10296 pump, stall converter, BTR custom grind kit, and my head gaskets kit (which I think comes with water pump gasket and some ARP head bolts). I see a lot of people putting transmission coolers on but I am hoping I can just do this another time. Especially since I don't drag race I figure I will be alright. Brings me to another question. Im getting a new chain and dampner. Do I need a different timing gear or is stock good to go? I see that BTR custom grind cam is good for a 24x or 58x timing gear. Which one do I have (L99). __________________ 2011 Camaro 2SS/RS, Circle D 3200, ADM Transmission Cooler, BTR Valvetrain, Cam Motion .621 .595 228/244 113+4, ARH 1 7/8 full exhaust, Cold Air Inductions, Katech C5R TC, Melling HV, BTR SLR lifters, Trunion Upgrade, LS2 Dampner, LS9 head gaskets, Bo White PTB, MM can, GFX, Subs, B&M Deep transmission pan, Holley fuel rail, Proform valve covers, relocated coil packs

02-09-2014, 01:24 AM	#9039
joplatinum Drives: camaro ss Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: california Posts: 54	ls3 conversion .. whats the fuss all about .. is it worth it !? or should i juat do heads and cam !?