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BlairW07 · 04-07-2014, 08:19 AM

Looks like next years Stingray will get an 8 speed auto that is supposed to be faster quicker than the 911 dual-clutch. Anyone think this might carry over to the next Camaro?

http://www.autoblog.com/2014/04/07/2...eed-automatic/

trashmanssd · 04-07-2014, 08:39 AM

I wouldn't think so they have the trans axle in the back. Not sure that would be adaptable to the back of the engine as the Camaro is. Maybe they will come up with a similar unit (shared internals) in a different housing. I would think next Gen will be 8 spd heck one of the new jeeps is getting 9 spd.

Trob85 · 04-07-2014, 08:49 AM

I could see it in the next gen of camaro. Just like everything else in gm performance the corvette will get it first to then they'll put it into other models.

Spartan01 · 04-07-2014, 08:52 AM

I hope not.
I mean these new dual clutch systems are wonders of engineering, hewver something is lost when you take out the stick.

Manual transmission only, til I die!

STOCK1SC · 04-07-2014, 08:57 AM

Well your manual transmission vehicle will be behind that 8 speed auto at every stop light and 1/4 mile track without a doubt in the world! On a road track maybe you will have the edge but on the street the 8 speed will kill you and get better gas mileage doing it.

PalmerGA · 04-07-2014, 09:16 AM

Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd... here we go again! Must we?

GretchenGotGrowl · 04-07-2014, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by PalmerGA

Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd... here we go again! Must we?

One advantage to an all electric Camaro would be no more A6 vs M6 threads.

bkscott · 04-07-2014, 09:23 AM

Funny, these same arguments are going on right now on both the Ferrari and Porsche forums.

I understand the advances in technology, and I have no problem with it. But at the end of the day I still like driving a tru manual transmission vehicle. This will probably be the last vehicle that allow me to do so.

In 10 years like it or not the true manual will be gone. The writing is on the wall.

BlairW07 · 04-07-2014, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by bkscott

I understand the advances in technology, and I have no problem with it. But at the end of the day I still like driving a tru manual transmission vehicle. This will probably be the last vehicle that allow me to do so.

In 10 years like it or not the true manual will be gone. The writing is on the wall.

+1

Spartan01 · 04-07-2014, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by bkscott

Funny, these same arguments are going on right now on both the Ferrari and Porsche forums.

I understand the advances in technology, and I have no problem with it. But at the end of the day I still like driving a tru manual transmission vehicle. This will probably be the last vehicle that allow me to do so.

In 10 years like it or not the true manual will be gone. The writing is on the wall.

I agree with you 100%

It's just that every time I announce to the world on this or any other forum that I like driving stick, Captain Obvious has to try to cram his 2 cents into my buttcrack,
Yes, we all know that the A6 is faster in the 1/4 mile thatn the M6
The dual clutch will be even faster, probably.

Did you also know that fire is hot?
Water is wet?

I am not discussing 1/4 mile speeds, I am not discussing dual clutches, i am simply describing my love for driving stick.
My love for being just a little bit more in touch and connected to the machine, and my love for being able to feel this connection,
my love for being able to drop a gear and INSTANT torque.
My love for actually having to do a more complicated series of manuevers when stopped on a hill or racing the 1/4.
The at the time terrifying, but now nostalgic memory of at 15, my father setting the emergency brake at a red light in downtown Bel Air, and jumping out of the car yelling "Move over, time for you to learn how to drive a stick, sink or swim!"

Even in the test video where they ran the GTR vs the Z28, the tester mentions how awesome the GTR is, but that he feels something missing from the manual that is present in the Z28.

Destructo09 · 04-07-2014, 10:10 AM

Getting back on track here.....

I suspect there will be multiple variations of that 8speed like with all of GMs other autos.

Typically they have a transaxle version and a RWD version of their transmissions. So likely there will be a normal RWD version and it will likely be used in trucks, and cars. So I would expect to see it in the camaro probably somewhere down the road.

The article I read said .08 seconds faster than a 911 dual-clutch transmission, which is pretty impressive.

FenwickHockey65 · 04-07-2014, 10:15 AM

ATS is getting an 8 speed.

Take that for what you will.

Destructo09 · 04-07-2014, 10:21 AM

So, I found some data that says the '14 911 GT3 PDK can shift in under 100ms, .08 seconds is 80ms, so the corvette transmission will shift in 20ms? I'd be surprised if thats true....

Apex Motorsports · 04-07-2014, 10:23 AM

I feel 110% confident that the 8 speed with land in the 6th Gen. The more of something you build the cheap each unit gets. It is in GM's best financial interests plus it will make for a faster car with better fuel economy. Win/Win/Win.

04-07-2014, 08:19 AM	#1
BlairW07 Drives: 2013 Ray Blue 2SS/RS Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Kansas City, Mo Posts: 31	8 Speed Transmission?? Looks like next years Stingray will get an 8 speed auto that is supposed to be faster quicker than the 911 dual-clutch. Anyone think this might carry over to the next Camaro? http://www.autoblog.com/2014/04/07/2...eed-automatic/ __________________ "Be so good they can't ignore you"

04-07-2014, 08:49 AM	#3
Trob85 Svt lol Drives: 2011 ss inferno orange blown Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Topeka Posts: 2,312	I could see it in the next gen of camaro. Just like everything else in gm performance the corvette will get it first to then they'll put it into other models. __________________ plasti dip is not a mod.......and a cold air intake doesn't make you fast!

04-07-2014, 08:52 AM	#4
Spartan01 Drives: Evil Eva, 2010 2SS LS3 Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Falls Church, Virginia Posts: 3,600	I hope not. I mean these new dual clutch systems are wonders of engineering, hewver something is lost when you take out the stick. Manual transmission only, til I die! __________________ "You simply cannot trust quotes found on the internet." -Abraham Lincoln

04-07-2014, 09:16 AM	#6
PalmerGA Drives: 2013 SIM 1SS/RS L99 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Southwest GA Posts: 8,754 View My Garage	Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd... here we go again! Must we? __________________ 2013 1SS/RS Coupe L99, Stainless Power Works LT Headers, SCT X4 Custom Tune from RDP, CAI Inc. Air Intake w/ Apex Scoop, VMAX CNC Ported Throttle Body, Solo Axle-Back Exhaust w/ J-pipes, Apex Catch Can, Husky Splash Guards, Heritage Grille, 3D Carbon Rear Spoiler, Oracle Chrome Turn Signal Bulbs, GM Reverse Light Trim Billets, Gorilla Black Locking Lugs, Emblem Pros Retro SS Badges/Custom Retro SS Kickplates/Under-hood Bowtie, 35% window Tint, Nitto Motivo Tires (6-8-18)

04-07-2014, 09:23 AM	#8
bkscott Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Grand Prairie, Texas Posts: 1,609 View My Garage	Funny, these same arguments are going on right now on both the Ferrari and Porsche forums. I understand the advances in technology, and I have no problem with it. But at the end of the day I still like driving a tru manual transmission vehicle. This will probably be the last vehicle that allow me to do so. In 10 years like it or not the true manual will be gone. The writing is on the wall. __________________ 94 Firebird Formula (Drowned 08/30/05) 2010 IBM 2SS/RS 6M Arrived 3/25/10. ADM CAI, Borla Type S Cat Back, VMAX Ported TB, LG Short Throw Shifter, 1LE Shocks, Hotchkis Sway Bars, Whiteline Cradle Bushing Inserts, Custom Powdercoated ZL1's ,Michelin Pilot Supersports, Stainless Power Headers, Solo J Pipes, AAC LED Sidemarkers, ZL1 Rockers, SLP Splitter, ADM Stage II Cam,ZL1 Diffuser,Vitesse Throttle Controller.

04-07-2014, 08:39 AM	#2
trashmanssd Drives: Black 14 2SS/1LE/RS 14 Tundra Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Plymouth, Ma Posts: 2,414	I wouldn't think so they have the trans axle in the back. Not sure that would be adaptable to the back of the engine as the Camaro is. Maybe they will come up with a similar unit (shared internals) in a different housing. I would think next Gen will be 8 spd heck one of the new jeeps is getting 9 spd.

04-07-2014, 08:57 AM	#5
STOCK1SC Drives: 2012 Charger Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: SC Posts: 64	Well your manual transmission vehicle will be behind that 8 speed auto at every stop light and 1/4 mile track without a doubt in the world! On a road track maybe you will have the edge but on the street the 8 speed will kill you and get better gas mileage doing it.

04-07-2014, 10:10 AM	#11
Destructo09 Drives: 2010 CGM Camaro 2SS/LS3 Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Raleigh-Durham Posts: 1,409	Getting back on track here..... I suspect there will be multiple variations of that 8speed like with all of GMs other autos. Typically they have a transaxle version and a RWD version of their transmissions. So likely there will be a normal RWD version and it will likely be used in trucks, and cars. So I would expect to see it in the camaro probably somewhere down the road. The article I read said .08 seconds faster than a 911 dual-clutch transmission, which is pretty impressive. __________________ 2010 2SS BMR 1" Springs Koni Orange struts/shocks 1LE rear sway bar SRP Racing Pedals Hurst Billet short shifter Square tire/wheel setup Elite Engineering Catch Can Stainless Power longtubes/highflow cats K&N Typhoon CAI RPM Motorsports of Garner, NC dyno tune (421 RWHP)

04-07-2014, 10:15 AM	#12
FenwickHockey65 General Motors Aficionado Drives: 2023 GMC Canyon, 2023 Expedition Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 37,375 View My Garage	ATS is getting an 8 speed. Take that for what you will. __________________ 2023 GMC Canyon Elevation 2023 Ford Expedition SSV (State-Issued)

04-07-2014, 10:21 AM	#13
Destructo09 Drives: 2010 CGM Camaro 2SS/LS3 Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Raleigh-Durham Posts: 1,409	So, I found some data that says the '14 911 GT3 PDK can shift in under 100ms, .08 seconds is 80ms, so the corvette transmission will shift in 20ms? I'd be surprised if thats true.... __________________ 2010 2SS BMR 1" Springs Koni Orange struts/shocks 1LE rear sway bar SRP Racing Pedals Hurst Billet short shifter Square tire/wheel setup Elite Engineering Catch Can Stainless Power longtubes/highflow cats K&N Typhoon CAI RPM Motorsports of Garner, NC dyno tune (421 RWHP)

04-07-2014, 10:23 AM	#14
Apex Motorsports Drives: 2000 Camaro SS Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Louisville, Ky. Posts: 25,165	I feel 110% confident that the 8 speed with land in the 6th Gen. The more of something you build the cheap each unit gets. It is in GM's best financial interests plus it will make for a faster car with better fuel economy. Win/Win/Win.