6th Gen early sales

[merlin803]

Originally Posted by SteelCamaro

From a technical aspect, yes. The LS3 is also technically a different engine from the LS2, but they are still both small block Chevy V8s. At the end of the day, a Camaro is still a Camaro. There's more to cars than just the technical side of things.

Yeah, only the engine, trans, frame, interior and everything else besides the badges are different. They are exactly the same...

I get it, you don't like it and we all deserve our opinions so that is fine, there are a lot of valid reasons to not like it but "it is the same car" is not one.

I promise you that if you de-badged them and had someone who has never driven either drive them that they wouldn't think they are the same car...in any way except for them both having bad visibility, lol.

Again, not saying that it is superior or that there is anything at all wrong with 5th gens, I am just giving my opinion from a perspective of actually having owned and driven both....not just guessing without actually driven a 6th gen.

[SteelCamaro]

Originally Posted by merlin803

Yeah, only the engine, trans, frame, interior and everything else besides the badges are different. They are exactly the same...

I get it, you don't like it and we all deserve our opinions so that is fine, there are a lot of valid reasons to not like it but "it is the same car" is not one.

I promise you that if you de-badged them and had someone who has never driven either drive them that they wouldn't think they are the same car...in any way except for them both having bad visibility, lol.

Again, not saying that it is superior or that there is anything at all wrong with 5th gens, I am just giving my opinion from a perspective of actually having owned and driven both....not just guessing without actually driven a 6th gen.

Because everyone is instantly going to be able to tell the car has a different frame.

Please get off your pedestal and think you have the be-all, end-all opinion because you own a 6th gen. I've sat in, ridden in, and driven enough 6th gens up to this point to be able to form a valid opinion, and I think they are extremely similar cars to the 5th gen from an overall feel and experience standpoint. I've also taken my 5th gen close to it's absolute limits in many aspects to be able to create a very valid benchmark. I LOVE the interior of the 6th gen, but I didn't buy my Camaro for the interior.

30HP is also not a huge difference, and a manual is still a manual. I wouldn't buy an automatic, so any differences there are irrelevant to me, and do nothing for me. Trust me, the car I want most right now is a Cayman GT4, and I'm ALL ABOUT the European looks and handling capabilities, but the 6th gen's looks are sub-par at best to me. The hood is too rounded, the front looks like some sort of fish, and the rear looks like a Camry. Pictures, in person, doesn't matter, my opinion hasn't changed. I'm usually upgrading handling before anything, because autocross is extremely fun. But is it enough of a difference to warrant taking a $20k hit and spending $50k? Hardly. Let's face it too, handling is obviously a huge factor to people right now, because the Z/28 is totally dominating the Hellcat in sales.

[merlin803]

Originally Posted by SteelCamaro

Because everyone is instantly going to be able to tell the car has a different frame.

Please get off your pedestal and think you have the be-all, end-all opinion because you own a 6th gen. I've sat in, ridden in, and driven enough 6th gens up to this point to be able to form a valid opinion, and I think they are extremely similar cars to the 5th gen from an overall feel and experience standpoint. I've also taken my 5th gen close to it's absolute limits in many aspects to be able to create a very valid benchmark. I LOVE the interior of the 6th gen, but I didn't buy my Camaro for the interior.

30HP is also not a huge difference, and a manual is still a manual. I wouldn't buy an automatic, so any differences there are irrelevant to me, and do nothing for me. Trust me, the car I want most right now is a Cayman GT4, and I'm ALL ABOUT the European looks and handling capabilities, but the 6th gen's looks are sub-par at best to me. The hood is too rounded, the front looks like some sort of fish, and the rear looks like a Camry. Pictures, in person, doesn't matter, my opinion hasn't changed. I'm usually upgrading handling before anything, because autocross is extremely fun. But is it enough of a difference to warrant taking a $20k hit and spending $50k? Hardly. Let's face it too, handling is obviously a huge factor to people right now, because the Z/28 is totally dominating the Hellcat in sales.

High horse? I don't know what I have said to indicate that but whatever. Peace out. Hope we all enjoy whatever cars we have.

[Mr. Wyndham]

Hey guys?

We're all driving Camaros, and that's more important than what generation it is...

Let's all play nice, so I don't need to be the big-bad moderator....please.

[Tony-8]

Hey Guys,
If you look at all the different car models and colors moving down the highway, and think that the owners of virtually every one of them thought that their car was the best car their money could buy, is it any wonder that we are not all going to agree on every aspect of whether a Gen 5 or Gen 6 is the better choice? :-)

Those of us here have a lot more in common where cars are concerned than most people do. We all love at least some iterations of this American icon. And while it's cool to share our different opinions and make our cases for and/or against various aspects of updated versions, I don't think there's anything gained by going after each other's motives.

I've only owned two new cars in my life - a 1977 silver Camaro and a 2014 silver Camaro. That being said, I'm happy for all of you who have been able to enjoy that new car experience a lot more often than I have! :-) By the way, I'm a mediator by profession, so I always like to see folks getting along. You guys are all great!

[Angrybird 12]

Originally Posted by SteelCamaro

Does it really matter? I still think owning 3 of the exact same car in 5 years is still pretty pointless. Why get the exact same thing when the one you have is still perfectly good? Just so you can say you got a new car? If someone ultimately wants a ZL1, then save up to get that one from the start. I understand a lot of times those cars are financially unattainable, so most people just settle for a V6 or whatever, which is fine, but then don't lease or get a different car every year, be at least a little financially responsible. It's a waste of money and only going to prolong you from reaching your ultimate goal. Owning an SS, I have no desire to upgrade to a ZL1 or Z/28, because I'm perfectly content with the model I own. Sure, they would be AWESOME to own, but I've already experienced the Camaro of this era. Same goes for my WRX, the STi is better in every way, sure, but it's still basically the same car and would be boring to own the same thing, in my opinion. I'd buy a Focus RS, EVO, Golf R, etc. before an STi. Don't get me wrong, if I win the powerball and money is no object, then I'll be the first in line to buy every model for every brand. I guess I'm just too much of a general car guy, not really partial to any particular brand, and want to try everything.



All it takes is regular maintenance, and these cars last well over 100K miles. Heck, Edelbrock even offers a 100k mile warranty with their packages. That's how much faith they put into the Gen 5's longevity.

Yes it matters to many people. Maybe not you but it does to others.
My personal story why I traded my 2010 1LT Coupe for a 2012 1LT convertible.
When I bought my 2010 back in 2009 I was happy with it, there was no convertible model and nobody knew at that time if one would come out any time soon. Well in 2011 they did come out with the convertible but I told myself I am happy with my coupe. A year later my son bought one and I had the chance to taking a trip to the beach with him. Well that sold me, I wanted a Camaro Convertible. I have always enjoyed owning a convertible and the Camaro convertible fulfilled my desire. Did I need to trade? No. Did I want to trade? Yes. Was I wrong to trade? No. I am much happier with the Camaro I have now.
This is to just explain that people have personal reasons why they trade for the same type car. It's not my place to judge anyone's motives on why or what they do or do not trade for because it's a personal decision each individual has to make on their own.
You may not agree but it is not your place to tell someone what they do is pointless.

[merlin803]

Originally Posted by Angrybird 12

Yes it matters to many people. Maybe not you but it does to others.
My personal story why I traded my 2010 1LT Coupe for a 2012 1LT convertible.
When I bought my 2010 back in 2009 I was happy with it, there was no convertible model and nobody knew at that time if one would come out any time soon. Well in 2011 they did come out with the convertible but I told myself I am happy with my coupe. A year later my son bought one and I had the chance to taking a trip to the beach with him. Well that sold me, I wanted a Camaro Convertible. I have always enjoyed owning a convertible and the Camaro convertible fulfilled my desire. Did I need to trade? No. Did I want to trade? Yes. Was I wrong to trade? No. I am much happier with the Camaro I have now.
This is to just explain that people have personal reasons why they trade for the same type car. It's not my place to judge anyone's motives on why or what they do or do not trade for because it's a personal decision each individual has to make on their own.
You may not agree but it is not your place to tell someone what they do is pointless.

I guess where he differs is in what he thinks makes a car different, to me having a different color, a manual vs an auto, an 1SS vs a 2SS, a sunroof...etc. are all different cars but to someone that doesn't even consider an entirely different interior a real change then I guess he just has his own ideas on what constitutes "different enough".

I love cars and technology so changes like that make it worth it to me, I don't give a crap personally about doing it "to just say I have a new car", in fact I have had mine for over a month and didn't tell a sole at work or call up any of my family to tell them because that is not what it is about.

Like I said, to each there own. Let's enjoy whatever we have and not put down other's choices, we all are here because we love our cars and specifically our Camaro's.

[GetYouOne]

At the end of the day if ur happy then that's what matters. Ur coin ur decision. For me I'll hold onto my 5th gen maybe after I shrink and lose some lbs I'll look into the Sixth Gen ZL1.

[Childs Play]

Damn. I didn't realize I logged into MG6...

Drive what you want. The 6th gen improves on what the 5th gen has. 5th gen is still a great car. Why does it matter what someone else likes?

[102SS]

Love the performance numbers.

Not sold on durability or build quality.

The price is extreme as well in Canada over 60k for a decent optioned SS.

Probably close to 70k for a 1LE.

[RaceFuel]

I don't hate the 6th Gen...it's a great car!

I just don't make enough money right now to be able to get it..plus I'm still not sure I could fit in it.

[RLHMARINES]

I will be upgrading to a 6thgen hopefully once all the performance models are released but the new 1LE has a strong pull on me at the moment.

[Camaro Dude]

Originally Posted by RLHMARINES

I will be upgrading to a 6thgen hopefully once all the performance models are released but the new 1LE has a strong pull on me at the moment.

ZL1 vs 6 Gen

[Fraxum]

I still have to confirm this, but from what I have read the CA6 is a big step forward. After owning three fifth gens I do think the pre 2014 5th gen ZL1 is the high water mark for the best looking Camaro of all time. The 2014-15 ZL1s are a close second.

But the 6th gen Camaro is clearly a Camaro and a good looking car if a little cartoonish. The CA6es are having a few teething problems too. Someting we also experienced with the 5th gens.

With the CA6 SS ZL1 level performance has dipped below $40K. How cool is that? As for me I will take the lighter, faster, better handling car with more modern amenities and a far nicer interior when the time and $$ make sense. Unfortunately for me this time has been pushed up to soon. I will miss my ZL1, but I am really looking forward to driving the new Camaro

I am not knocking the 5th gen. It is still a great car. But time marches on. Enjoy your fifth gen and then one day you have a great car to move on to when it suits you or not.

Spend some time in a CA6 before giving up on it. It might win you over. In the mean time enjoy your Camaro.