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Michael_Js · 12-02-2009, 09:56 AM

Don't have mine on either - going on 3 months Saturday, 12/5. I had to sign the waiver instructing the dealer NOT to put it on. There are threads here that show how to install it will zip ties and rubber to protect the bumper - as I think was already mentioned above. That would be my intention. Now, if you get a fix-it ticket, fix it, then take it off again, won't they know that for next time? Not sure then if you'd get more than just a fix-it ticket...

Yup, I think my registration for this new Beast was over $800!! :( Lots of reasons to stay in CA, lots of reasons to leave...

mrray13 · 12-02-2009, 10:00 AM

As a police officer in a state that requires front plates, i can tell you this...

LIDAR, or laser, is not aimed at the plate. When I trained on it, I aimed at the car in general, mostly the center of the grille, to the area at the base of the windshield. LIDAR can get you from way far away, over 1/4 mile in most cases, and long before I can tell if you have a front plate.

Most front plates get so dirty, they are hard to read, especially backwards, in my mirror. They are nice when a car is parked and I need to run the plates.

They are great for cameras. Although, we don't have many in my neck of the woods, so I honestly don't know how effective they are.

Personally, I believe it's more revenue driven, and I like the fact that if I need to pull a car over, and the driver isn't giving me any reason too, not having a front plate is great PC.

Windshield placement isn't acceptable in Illinois for two reasons, the plate isn't attached and it is obstructing the windshield. So technically, I can get you twice for that one.

1320junkie · 12-02-2009, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by mrray13

and I like the fact that if I need to pull a car over, and the driver isn't giving me any reason too, not having a front plate is great PC.

A little off topic, but why would you need to pull them over if they aren't giving you a reason to? Former Federal Agent here, so I am not to in the know on traffic laws etc.

MightyT · 12-02-2009, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by mscaggs

My best advise is to move from that state! Lived there myself for 44 years, moved to TN in 05, best thing I ever did. I'm just kidding you, stay in CA if that's your love... For me I just got burned out on the politics, taxes, and a number of other things you all ready know about. Good luck with your plate buddy. BTW, In TN tags are 79.00 for any car! In CA tags cost me over 600 bucks a year, crazy

So true ... funny thing is I left NY for the very same reasons in 79 ...

Coldpants · 12-02-2009, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by SlyJester7

thanx! and yea i am goin to skate by as long as i can without havin the front one on. I heard the purpose of one on a car is because thats what cops aim for when they are lasering ur speed. idk if thats 100% true.. .

my bad if i reposted somethin already discussed

No they get your headlights

Downwithopp · 12-02-2009, 10:17 AM

3 months without one so far, I hope to god the police around here have better things to do than pull over people without front license plates... :-\

Coldpants · 12-02-2009, 10:18 AM

I have my on a retractable mount under my bumper and it open with a remote. You can't see it when it is retracted and If i get pulled over I can just flip it out.
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TJ91 · 12-02-2009, 10:22 AM

Dont do the double sided tape. I flipped mine upside down, drill a few holes in them and used zip ties to die em down to the lower grill. Tight and secure, looks great and oyu would think its drilled, but its not

elpatofeo · 12-02-2009, 10:53 AM

...I have been driving around without my front license plate for 2 months now and have been behind cops, passed cops and nothing. I guess I have been fortunate or maybe it's because I still have the dealers decal in the rear so they think that I just bought the car and I have not received my plates yet...LOL! I also have a 92 Conv. Camaro that I have been driving for 5 years and have only been pulled over twice for not having the front license plate and in both cases they let me off with a warning, no fix it ticket!

WyleCoyote · 12-02-2009, 11:13 AM

First off Welcome to the forum. There have been a couple of threads concerning this subject and you will find that people seem to go in one of three directions on this.
1. Some elected to go with no front plate and take their chances on a ticket.
2. Some got stuck with the factory bracket because the dealer installed it.
3. Some are doing something inbetween (like the hideaway bracket or some other bracket that does not require drilling the front bumper).
I also live in a state that requires a front plate, so I installed the flip down bracket that mounts under the bumper. That way all the holes are out of sight. This bracket works very well and I don't have to worry about a ticket.

Here are pictures of my install. In the end you will have to do what you think is best for you.
Again Welcome and enjoy your new ride.

Beach dude · 12-02-2009, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by WyleCoyote

I also live in a state that requires a front plate, so I installed the flip down bracket that mounts under the bumper.

Nice...!

where can we get these?

SRVFAN · 12-02-2009, 11:29 AM

I got a warning ticket from my "neighbor" a state trooper that lives in my small town (nice guy, hunh... real neighborly!) anyway I refuse to attach mine to the front bumper... I have mine on my dash, "attached" to the glass with two clear suction cups that I bought at Walmart. Yes, RUBY goes to Walmart!

In Texas the law reads: License Plates must be "at" the front & "at" the rear of the vehicle. No other details..... so, there you have it... If I get ticketed for it, I feel certain I can beat it. It is visible from the front for a great distance & it is readable. It really doesn't inhibit my view either... I can't see over the hood anyway!

Scrappy Doo · 12-02-2009, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 1320junkie

A little off topic, but why would you need to pull them over if they aren't giving you a reason to? Former Federal Agent here, so I am not to in the know on traffic laws etc.

He is talking about using the no front plate as a reason to stop a car. Example: You find a car in an area where no one should be late at night. The car is behaving the traffic laws. Officer sees the equipment violation and now has a solid reason to stop the car and find out what the occupants are up to.

(Currently copping and I teach Law enforcement classes at college also)

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Originally Posted by SRVFAN

I got a warning ticket from my "neighbor" a state trooper that lives in my small town (nice guy, hunh... real neighborly!) anyway I refuse to attach mine to the front bumper... I have mine on my dash, "attached" to the glass with two clear suction cups that I bought at Walmart. Yes, RUBY goes to Walmart!

In Texas the law reads: License Plates must be "at" the front & "at" the rear of the vehicle. No other details..... so, there you have it... If I get ticketed for it, I feel certain I can beat it. It is visible from the front for a great distance & it is readable. It really doesn't inhibit my view either... I can't see over the hood anyway!

Maybe he was just trying to save you from getting a ticket from someone that wasn't as nice as he was. A warning ticket doesn't cost you a nickel.

And since you still refuse to attach it, don't complain if you get tagged for it.

CPanther95 · 12-02-2009, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Scrappy Doo

Maybe he was just trying to save you from getting a ticket from someone that wasn't as nice as he was. A warning ticket doesn't cost you a nickel.

Not getting as warning ticket doesn't cost you a nickel either. Unless a warning ticket prevents another officer from issuing a real citation, he's a douchenozzle to issue it to a neighbor.

12-02-2009, 09:56 AM	#15
Michael_Js SoCal C5 Family Member Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS - Black w/IOM; 6M Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: San Diego, CA, USA Posts: 5,298 View My Garage	Don't have mine on either - going on 3 months Saturday, 12/5. I had to sign the waiver instructing the dealer NOT to put it on. There are threads here that show how to install it will zip ties and rubber to protect the bumper - as I think was already mentioned above. That would be my intention. Now, if you get a fix-it ticket, fix it, then take it off again, won't they know that for next time? Not sure then if you'd get more than just a fix-it ticket... Yup, I think my registration for this new Beast was over $800!! :( Lots of reasons to stay in CA, lots of reasons to leave... __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 2010 Black 2SS/RS; 6M; IOM, GFX, sunroof; ADM Race CAI; Zoomers CB; Viper Alarm; Pdaft F&R sways, Adj Endlinks, Rtrailing arms, Camber kit, strut brace, Front Trailing Arm Bushing; SLP Skip-Shift Elim; Tinted lights/windows; Hurst Short-throw; LoJack; Door & Dash ABL Mods; ********; JBA Shorty headers; AACStyle LEDs; Stillen DS rotors, Hawk Ceramic pads; Havoc Blk Chrome wheels: 20x9s; Lingenfelter Blk Al Pedals; RevXtreme Catch Can; Goodridge SS lines; Ported TB; RK Sport hood; Hotchkis chassis brace; KW V3 coilovers;

12-02-2009, 10:18 AM	#21
Coldpants Nerdy one Drives: #000000 & #FF8000 2010 Camaro Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: (elba), ct Posts: 806 View My Garage	I have my on a retractable mount under my bumper and it open with a remote. You can't see it when it is retracted and If i get pulled over I can just flip it out. __________________ Dave McFly: Modern cars are awash in “It-goes-to-11” ergonomics. No one asked for it. It’s just in your car because—like black mold or a carjacker with herpes—it can be. SHORT FAT ROUND NINJA

12-02-2009, 11:13 AM	#24
WyleCoyote Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Lusby, Maryland Posts: 59 View My Garage	First off Welcome to the forum. There have been a couple of threads concerning this subject and you will find that people seem to go in one of three directions on this. 1. Some elected to go with no front plate and take their chances on a ticket. 2. Some got stuck with the factory bracket because the dealer installed it. 3. Some are doing something inbetween (like the hideaway bracket or some other bracket that does not require drilling the front bumper). I also live in a state that requires a front plate, so I installed the flip down bracket that mounts under the bumper. That way all the holes are out of sight. This bracket works very well and I don't have to worry about a ticket. Here are pictures of my install. In the end you will have to do what you think is best for you. Again Welcome and enjoy your new ride. Attached Images

12-02-2009, 11:29 AM	#26
SRVFAN Too Much FUN!! Drives: RUBY!! 2010 2SS/RS RJT Camaro Join Date: May 2009 Location: Parker Cnty, TX Posts: 621	I got a warning ticket from my "neighbor" a state trooper that lives in my small town (nice guy, hunh... real neighborly!) anyway I refuse to attach mine to the front bumper... I have mine on my dash, "attached" to the glass with two clear suction cups that I bought at Walmart. Yes, RUBY goes to Walmart! In Texas the law reads: License Plates must be "at" the front & "at" the rear of the vehicle. No other details..... so, there you have it... If I get ticketed for it, I feel certain I can beat it. It is visible from the front for a great distance & it is readable. It really doesn't inhibit my view either... I can't see over the hood anyway! __________________ RJT / Gray Leather / 2SS / RS / Sunroof / Auto / 20" Polished 1100 (original order date): Order# NKCJ8P 05.09.09 2000 (dealer received allocation): 7/28/09 2500 (order preferenced): 3000 (accepted to production): 7/30/09 - TPW 8/17/09 3300 (scheduled for prod) 8/5/09 THANKS Viz!! 3400 (broadcast): 8/15/09 3800 (produced):8/22/09 - #39,334 4000/4B00 (available to ship/bayed): 4200 (shipped): 8/24/09 4300 (intermediate, may be multiple): 5000 (at dealer):09/03/09 6000 (delivered to customer): 9/3/09

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12-02-2009, 10:00 AM	#16
mrray13 Drives: 2010 1LT RS Rally Yellow Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: southern Illinois Posts: 2,973	As a police officer in a state that requires front plates, i can tell you this... LIDAR, or laser, is not aimed at the plate. When I trained on it, I aimed at the car in general, mostly the center of the grille, to the area at the base of the windshield. LIDAR can get you from way far away, over 1/4 mile in most cases, and long before I can tell if you have a front plate. Most front plates get so dirty, they are hard to read, especially backwards, in my mirror. They are nice when a car is parked and I need to run the plates. They are great for cameras. Although, we don't have many in my neck of the woods, so I honestly don't know how effective they are. Personally, I believe it's more revenue driven, and I like the fact that if I need to pull a car over, and the driver isn't giving me any reason too, not having a front plate is great PC. Windshield placement isn't acceptable in Illinois for two reasons, the plate isn't attached and it is obstructing the windshield. So technically, I can get you twice for that one.

12-02-2009, 10:17 AM	#20
Downwithopp Drives: 2010 Black SS Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 352	3 months without one so far, I hope to god the police around here have better things to do than pull over people without front license plates... :-\

12-02-2009, 10:22 AM	#22
TJ91 :chevy: Drives: 2LT/RS Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 13,035	Dont do the double sided tape. I flipped mine upside down, drill a few holes in them and used zip ties to die em down to the lower grill. Tight and secure, looks great and oyu would think its drilled, but its not

12-02-2009, 10:53 AM	#23
elpatofeo LawBraker Drives: 10 SIM 2LT/RS & 2016 1SS Hyper Blue Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Fresno, CA. Posts: 910 View My Garage	...I have been driving around without my front license plate for 2 months now and have been behind cops, passed cops and nothing. I guess I have been fortunate or maybe it's because I still have the dealers decal in the rear so they think that I just bought the car and I have not received my plates yet...LOL! I also have a 92 Conv. Camaro that I have been driving for 5 years and have only been pulled over twice for not having the front license plate and in both cases they let me off with a warning, no fix it ticket!