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DarthZL1 · 07-10-2014, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Slowp0ke

UPDATE: when the tech was compression testing it, it bled off fast then he whacked it with a hammer and the valve seated and quit bleeding off... so that indicates a valve problem but when they took the head off the valves looked fine???

I was an ASE certified technician in the 80's and into the 90's. If I got caught hitting a valve with a hammer to "unstick" it, I would have been fired.

Slowp0ke · 07-10-2014, 09:29 AM

the truck is hella marked up could be the only explanation ... and this is 100% true, I put 3k down too... forgot to mention that

DarthZL1 · 07-10-2014, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Slowp0ke

the truck is hella marked up could be the only explanation ... and this is 100% true, I put 3k down too... forgot to mention that

Nope. They will NEVER give $48K as a trade and sell it for anything less than that. That is unless they're stupid. AND if this situation is true, you have every right to back out of the deal. Which (IF THIS IS TRUE) you should do immediately.

Slowp0ke · 07-10-2014, 09:36 AM

IT IS TRUE, I have paper work to PROVE it... they made their money on the TRUCK he never haggled on the STICKER price ... the salesman that made the deal with my FIL is also the SAME guy that made my deal... so he knows what is on the table and what he COULD and COULDNT do

trashmanssd · 07-10-2014, 09:36 AM

DarthZL1 · 07-10-2014, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Slowp0ke

IT IS TRUE, I have paper work to PROVE it... they made their money on the TRUCK he never haggled on the STICKER price ... the salesman that made the deal with my FIL is also the SAME guy that made my deal... so he knows what is on the table and what he COULD and COULDNT do

Okay... well...

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Originally Posted by DarthZL1

...if this situation is true, you have every right to back out of the deal. Which (IF THIS IS TRUE) you should do immediately.

Otherwise... good luck.

DarthZL1 · 07-10-2014, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by trashmanssd

This pretty much sums it all up.

DarthZL1 · 07-10-2014, 09:51 AM

Hey, I just noticed where you're from. I am familiar with that area. Which dealer is it? Johnson Chevrolet is the closest to you, so is that it?

Slowp0ke · 07-10-2014, 10:49 AM

new update: they took both heads off and noticed there was signs of the valves floating and slapping the pistons on all 8 cly.. the tech said it wont hurt the pistons... advice?

they sent the heads out to be machined I guess and are replacing all the valves...

jon6.0 · 07-10-2014, 10:57 AM

Ban the troll. You're gullible if you think valves hitting pistons is okay. That would cause bearing wear/damage as well as gouges in the pistons. Those gouges will now be hot spots and could cause detonation. You could sand the gouges down. But why would you if it's under warranty. New motor time dude. Also, no damn chance of valve float with the stock rev limiter. Unless it's tuned and they raised the rev limit without putting in good springs and pushrods. I still say this is a troll.

jon6.0 · 07-10-2014, 10:58 AM

Ban the troll. You're gullible if you think valves hitting pistons is okay. That would cause bearing wear/damage as well as gouges in the pistons. Those gouges will now be hot spots and could cause detonation. You could sand the gouges down. But why would you if it's under warranty. New motor time dude. Also, no damn chance of valve float with the stock rev limiter. Unless it's tuned and they raised the rev limit without putting in good springs and pushrods. I still say this is a troll.

Slowp0ke · 07-10-2014, 11:00 AM

yes sir Johnson motors is the dealer, im not a troll guys I just want info and advice to help me through this tough ordeal

jon6.0 · 07-10-2014, 11:05 AM

If you're serious I would accept nothing less than a brand new complete engine including the blower. The only thing I would allow swapped over would be the accessories.

jon6.0 · 07-10-2014, 11:06 AM

If you're serious I would accept nothing less than a brand new complete engine including the blower. The only thing I would allow swapped over would be the accessories.

07-10-2014, 09:51 AM	#36
DarthZL1 Drives: 2014 ZL1 M6 Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 331 View My Garage	Hey, I just noticed where you're from. I am familiar with that area. Which dealer is it? Johnson Chevrolet is the closest to you, so is that it? __________________ --- DarthZL1 - 2014 ZL1 #2095 M6 Black. Bone Stock --- --- BigNLo - 1996 Impala SS Hot Rod Black. Lots of mods ---

07-10-2014, 10:57 AM	#38
jon6.0 Going for Plaid Drives: 2011 C6 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Phoenix Posts: 885	Ban the troll. You're gullible if you think valves hitting pistons is okay. That would cause bearing wear/damage as well as gouges in the pistons. Those gouges will now be hot spots and could cause detonation. You could sand the gouges down. But why would you if it's under warranty. New motor time dude. Also, no damn chance of valve float with the stock rev limiter. Unless it's tuned and they raised the rev limit without putting in good springs and pushrods. I still say this is a troll. __________________ 2014 ZL1, manual trans, carbon hood insert, Rotofab, Pacesetter 1 7/8" headers, 1" drop BMR springs, stock pulleys, 91 octane tune, 545rwhp & 515rwtq Serviced and modded by Cordes Performance. 2011 C6, 750rwhp, forged LS3, ported LSA heads, Vortech Ti-trim, 227/243 115+4 Lunati cam, ported LS3 intake, Alky Control methanol, Pfadt sways/shocks/trans mounts, Pfadt tri-y headers(Sold 6/28/14)

07-10-2014, 10:58 AM	#39
jon6.0 Going for Plaid Drives: 2011 C6 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Phoenix Posts: 885	Ban the troll. You're gullible if you think valves hitting pistons is okay. That would cause bearing wear/damage as well as gouges in the pistons. Those gouges will now be hot spots and could cause detonation. You could sand the gouges down. But why would you if it's under warranty. New motor time dude. Also, no damn chance of valve float with the stock rev limiter. Unless it's tuned and they raised the rev limit without putting in good springs and pushrods. I still say this is a troll. __________________ 2014 ZL1, manual trans, carbon hood insert, Rotofab, Pacesetter 1 7/8" headers, 1" drop BMR springs, stock pulleys, 91 octane tune, 545rwhp & 515rwtq Serviced and modded by Cordes Performance. 2011 C6, 750rwhp, forged LS3, ported LSA heads, Vortech Ti-trim, 227/243 115+4 Lunati cam, ported LS3 intake, Alky Control methanol, Pfadt sways/shocks/trans mounts, Pfadt tri-y headers(Sold 6/28/14)

07-10-2014, 11:05 AM	#41
jon6.0 Going for Plaid Drives: 2011 C6 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Phoenix Posts: 885	If you're serious I would accept nothing less than a brand new complete engine including the blower. The only thing I would allow swapped over would be the accessories. __________________ 2014 ZL1, manual trans, carbon hood insert, Rotofab, Pacesetter 1 7/8" headers, 1" drop BMR springs, stock pulleys, 91 octane tune, 545rwhp & 515rwtq Serviced and modded by Cordes Performance. 2011 C6, 750rwhp, forged LS3, ported LSA heads, Vortech Ti-trim, 227/243 115+4 Lunati cam, ported LS3 intake, Alky Control methanol, Pfadt sways/shocks/trans mounts, Pfadt tri-y headers(Sold 6/28/14)

07-10-2014, 11:06 AM	#42
jon6.0 Going for Plaid Drives: 2011 C6 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Phoenix Posts: 885	If you're serious I would accept nothing less than a brand new complete engine including the blower. The only thing I would allow swapped over would be the accessories. __________________ 2014 ZL1, manual trans, carbon hood insert, Rotofab, Pacesetter 1 7/8" headers, 1" drop BMR springs, stock pulleys, 91 octane tune, 545rwhp & 515rwtq Serviced and modded by Cordes Performance. 2011 C6, 750rwhp, forged LS3, ported LSA heads, Vortech Ti-trim, 227/243 115+4 Lunati cam, ported LS3 intake, Alky Control methanol, Pfadt sways/shocks/trans mounts, Pfadt tri-y headers(Sold 6/28/14)

07-10-2014, 09:29 AM	#30
Slowp0ke Drives: 2013 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Reynoldsville PA Posts: 44	the truck is hella marked up could be the only explanation ... and this is 100% true, I put 3k down too... forgot to mention that

07-10-2014, 09:36 AM	#32
Slowp0ke Drives: 2013 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Reynoldsville PA Posts: 44	IT IS TRUE, I have paper work to PROVE it... they made their money on the TRUCK he never haggled on the STICKER price ... the salesman that made the deal with my FIL is also the SAME guy that made my deal... so he knows what is on the table and what he COULD and COULDNT do

07-10-2014, 09:36 AM	#33
trashmanssd Drives: Black 14 2SS/1LE/RS 14 Tundra Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Plymouth, Ma Posts: 2,414

07-10-2014, 10:49 AM	#37
Slowp0ke Drives: 2013 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Reynoldsville PA Posts: 44	new update: they took both heads off and noticed there was signs of the valves floating and slapping the pistons on all 8 cly.. the tech said it wont hurt the pistons... advice? they sent the heads out to be machined I guess and are replacing all the valves...

07-10-2014, 11:00 AM	#40
Slowp0ke Drives: 2013 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Reynoldsville PA Posts: 44	yes sir Johnson motors is the dealer, im not a troll guys I just want info and advice to help me through this tough ordeal