09-11-2011, 08:17 PM | #71 |
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There are dealers that will sell the ZL1 at MSRP. And this Ford Chevy comparison is funny! Every new model year platform will likely outdo the last. The Ford is a smaller car with a smaller engine, so far. To each his own I say. I WILL race any car, anytime just for the fun of it. Let's go racin bois!
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09-13-2011, 11:49 AM | #72 | |
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Considering a CTS-V weighs 4300lbs and is right there with the Shelby, what do you think the ZL1 will do with less weight and more power?? |
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09-13-2011, 01:04 PM | #73 |
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The 2012 zl1 will be competing with the 2013 gt500. The 2012 zl1 will whoop up on the 2012 gt500, but that is not the car it will be compared with. Wait until the 2013 gt500 specs are released to compare as that is the car that will be in showrooms directly competing for sales with the zl1. Getting caught up in the model year is stupid as the cars that will be cross-shopped by potential buyers in the segment will be 2013 gt500 and 2012 zl1, not 2012 gt500 and 2012 zl1.
Now, as for that comparison, the ball is in Ford's court as far as suspension goes. There's no doubting that Ford can easily match WHATEVER horsepower number chevy brings to the table. The 5.4 is easily capable of 700+hp completely reliably. The question is, what will they do with the suspension. I'd be willing to bet Ford will trickle information in the coming weeks. |
09-13-2011, 01:34 PM | #74 |
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The suspension on the 2011+ GT500's are pretty good from the factory, whether people want to admit it or not it destroys the CTS-V on the road course and skid pads at 1.00g.
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09-13-2011, 02:27 PM | #75 |
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I still think GM missed the boat by not designing the C5 interior capable of a navigation system. What the hell were they thinking?
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09-13-2011, 02:43 PM | #76 |
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I have to agree. Hell even the Z06 has Navigation standard on the 2 and 3 lz packages. And that is a track car.
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09-13-2011, 03:47 PM | #77 | |
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09-13-2011, 05:31 PM | #78 | ||
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Remember, as Fbodfather says often, enthusiasts screamed that Chevy had better "Keep it the same, and don't change a thing"...barring some safety, cost, and mandated attributes -- they did just that!!! The Concept design has no in-dash Navigation, and the design is not conducive to it (unless you can figure out a cost-effective way to curve an LCD screen...). They figured it's not an option that people want enough to sacrifice that interior design...so they didn't. And while you can't please 100% of people all the time...I would say, looking at the sales figures...they were 100% right in their decision. Quote:
We'll have to wait a little while longer before anybody can legitimately put the ZL1 on the bench with regards to the competition. For one - we don't know how spectacular it's going to be. And second - we don't know what Ford's planning on doing - all there is are rumors. But with only what we know so far - I don't think they're kidding around... |
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09-14-2011, 12:26 AM | #79 |
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Just visited a blue oval forum for the first time and; MAN IT IS BORINGGlad to be c5 member
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09-14-2011, 12:40 AM | #80 |
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These threads hurt my head. I will defer judgement until the car is actually on the street and getting run through it's paces.
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