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Old 01-07-2014, 12:06 AM   #85
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I agree, I wouldn't store my Camaro I love driving it in any weather, even snow. I put 4 snow tires on it and it drives great.
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Old 01-07-2014, 12:29 AM   #86
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Here you go, the answer to this thread cant be said any better than this.
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Old 01-07-2014, 01:03 AM   #87
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Although I can surely afford to have a DD I choose to drive my Z every day. I suffer from work-aholism so while I mostly only get to drive it from home to work & back it's those 20 minutes of fun that I live for every day. There's no real right or wrong way to treat your car, as it is YOUR car & your decision to do with it what you please.
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Old 01-07-2014, 08:32 AM   #88
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Mine was built to be driven. It has dings from other people and it pissed me off at first. Now i realize its just a car. There are a lot worst things in life to drive, like a Humvee with no a/c in tHe desert in middle of the summer.
Been there done that. Up Armored with windows up and no A/C good times.
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Old 01-07-2014, 10:09 AM   #89
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Reasons to garage a Camaro or any car that YOU love does price really matter?

  1. I dont like washing my car all the time.
  2. Reduce wear and tear, keep the miles low.
  3. On a nice day, taking a show room clean car out of the garage is win.
  4. 4 wheel drive is much more fun & efficient in the snow.
  5. Would you want to risk spinning out or getting hit by someone in the rain?
  6. Maintain the value of the car as much as possible.
  7. That new car smell.

Respectfully, these are my opinions.
We agree on some of them

1. Neither do I, it's a boring kind of chore so I don't. Just often enough on each of 4 cars for them to not look too bad. I'd really rather spend the time driving them anyway, which only starts to get them dirty all over again.

2. I think this is what OP is getting at. It assumes that the reason for buying it was to enjoy driving it. Maybe that's not everybody's reason, but it's mine too.

3. Except for not having enough garage space anyway, YES.

4. More efficient, yes. But not nearly as much fun if you've got an unplowed parking lot nearby. Us, we've got a turbo 6-speed MT AWD Subaru and it's all but impossible to make it do a donut. Totally impossible to handbrake it around.

5. Learn how to drive safely in wet conditions. Seriously, this can be done. Autocrossing in the rain is a hoot.

6. I guess, if resale value is something that matters. But beyond some point, further avoidance of use gains no value and costs you seat time in that car that you presumably bought because you really wanted to drive it.

7. I suppose. But even a 2014 will lose that new car smell given a little time.


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Old 01-07-2014, 10:43 AM   #90
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We agree on some of them

1. Neither do I, it's a boring kind of chore so I don't. Just often enough on each of 4 cars for them to not look too bad. I'd really rather spend the time driving them anyway, which only starts to get them dirty all over again.

2. I think this is what OP is getting at. It assumes that the reason for buying it was to enjoy driving it. Maybe that's not everybody's reason, but it's mine too.

3. Except for not having enough garage space anyway, YES.

4. More efficient, yes. But not nearly as much fun if you've got an unplowed parking lot nearby. Us, we've got a turbo 6-speed MT AWD Subaru and it's all but impossible to make it do a donut. Totally impossible to handbrake it around.

5. Learn how to drive safely in wet conditions. Seriously, this can be done. Autocrossing in the rain is a hoot.

6. I guess, if resale value is something that matters. But beyond some point, further avoidance of use gains no value and costs you seat time in that car that you presumably bought because you really wanted to drive it.

7. I suppose. But even a 2014 will lose that new car smell given a little time.


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I am very concerned about number 5, and agree with you 100%. If anyone is really afraid to drive a car in the rain because they are lacking the confidence to do so and not loose control, they need to stop driving today, and go get some training. That level of incompetence should never be on the road.
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Old 01-07-2014, 10:51 AM   #91
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I am very concerned about number 5, and agree with you 100%. If anyone is really afraid to drive a car in the rain because they are lacking the confidence to do so and not loose control, they need to stop driving today, and go get some training. That level of incompetence should never be on the road.
That being said, the stock PZeros are absolutely scary in the rain. I'd never had a set of tires that hydroplaned so easily.

I've not hydroplaned once with the BFG Sport Comp 2s that I replaced the Pzeros with.
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Old 01-07-2014, 10:52 AM   #92
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I probably drove my 2010 SS more than 95% of those on this forum or any owner for that matter with over 60,000 miles in three years but I hat leaving the car outside for two reasons. 1, the f***ing sprinklers with well water that stains the car and 2) the f***ing tree to developer put over the driveway that leaves yellow stains all over my car. I hate washing my car every week so now that my wife's TT convertible is gone the garage is the permanent home for my 2014 1LE, and believe me with the new wrapped hood I would lose my mind fighting those damned sprinklers and tree pollen.
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That being said, the stock PZeros are absolutely scary in the rain. I'd never had a set of tires that hydroplaned so easily.

I've not hydroplaned once with the BFG Sport Comp 2s that I replaced the Pzeros with.
Really? That is weird because I thought they were pretty good considering the width of the tires, have you always had 245+ size tires or is this the first time in awhile? Skinnier tires help against hydroplaning because they cut through the water. Living in south Florida, the thunderstorm capital of the world, I drive in torrential downpours on a near daily basis in the summer with no problems with the PZeros. Maybe I'm uesd to it with all the rain we see here and becaues I have had sports cars with wide tires since I was a teen. I was very concerned about the Goodyears on my 1LE, but they did good so far but by this summer the treads will be gone so it will be totally different I'm afraid...time will tell.
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Old 01-07-2014, 10:59 AM   #94
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These are definitely the widest tires I've ever had on a vehicle.
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Old 01-07-2014, 11:03 AM   #95
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Yea that's right ..what do you have to worry about....besides those damn hurricanes...see how 8 inches of snow grabs ya.

Born and raised in Detroit, snow doesn't phase me much.
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Old 01-07-2014, 11:15 AM   #96
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Really? That is weird because I thought they were pretty good considering the width of the tires, have you always had 245+ size tires or is this the first time in awhile? Skinnier tires help against hydroplaning because they cut through the water.
I wish that was always true, but it isn't.

My car's OE BFG KDWS in 235/50 get so touchy about wet cornering even in 4th gear that I can't even breathe on the throttle until I'm completely out of the corner and going straight. Been that way since brand-new. The 3-season GY Asymmetrics in 255/45 that I now have can be driven through the same turns up to almost moderate throttle in 3rd gear, and at a slightly higher speed to boot - and they'll still have more cushion against the tail trying to run wide. Feels almost like being on dry pavement by comparison to the way the narrow OE tires behave and feel.


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Old 01-07-2014, 11:23 AM   #97
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Old 01-07-2014, 01:42 PM   #98
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It's funny ..the guys that drive in the snow all the time don't mention driving in the rain...if driving in the rain is hazardous for you then slow down. I really never thought of driving in the rain as being tricky.
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