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FargoZL1 · 01-05-2018, 06:28 PM

Hey gang.

I've got a 2013 zl1 convertible, only power mod so far is a muffler delete and a rotofab. I'm looking for advice on which bolt on mods will generate the most power while running 91 octane. That's as high as I can buy and still enjoy road trips. I just had my supercharger replaced under warranty. I know I'll need a tune and I'm not worried about the warranty, but I don't want to do a cam or headers.

Looking to learn. Thank you.

GONMAD510 · 01-05-2018, 06:42 PM

See my signature for the mods I have done to my car. Dyno numbers are listed too. Torque number is a little low because tires were slipping on the dyno.
I did it all at once but it is not necessary.

d454brisson · 01-05-2018, 08:42 PM

Do the headers, not a hard job with these cars and really wakes them up. iF worried about that maybe a pulley and Jannetty tune.

I have the stock mid pipes to rear with headers and no cats and its a significant improvement.

These car have a very specific upgrade track

CAI
pulley 5%-10% / tune
headers / tune
injectors, more pulley, BAP tune
Cam / tune
misc port polish, TB etc

Can'tHave2MuchHP · 01-05-2018, 10:35 PM

Power goal? What are you looking to spend? Fueling are going to be your first limits (Injectors, BAP). Your lower octane is going to force you to stay easy on the boost. No cam is also going to limit boost levels.

If I were you:

LT Headers - (I'd recommend ARH or Kooks, and go cat-less)
18% OD Pulley - Either 9.1" lower or 2.55" upper, both = 18%.
ID850 or ID1050 Fuel Injectors - Injector Dynamics make the best IMO
Colder plugs, Larger Reservoir, and 160 Degree stat.

This should get you around 600-620 RWHP.

I'd highly recommend looking up Ted Jannetty @ Jannetty Racing and giving him a call. I wouldn't trust anyone more than Ted when it comes to LSA modifications and Octane levels. He'll probably reiterate what I said above. Many people like to push higher boost on no cams, many people like to push more power on too little octane. Ted knows his stuff.

StreetRage320 · 01-05-2018, 11:18 PM

The three folks above are right on..I am just really curious why you want to avoid headers? I get not wanting to open the engine up for a cam kit, but headers on these cars are not bad to do. If you have heard back things about aftermarket cats (which many seem to have problems with them on our higher boosted ZL1), I would just go catless.

JB'sZL1 · 01-06-2018, 07:32 AM

Yeah. To narrow it down need your goals and budget.

FargoZL1 · 01-06-2018, 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JB'sZL1

Yeah. To narrow it down need your goals and budget.

$3000 this year. Its a convertible, so I'm not gonna 1/4 mile ever. A least, not on a track with any witnesses.... :-)

Seriously though, I'm probably like everyone else just starting this parh: How much power for how much dollar.

JB'sZL1 · 01-06-2018, 09:55 AM

I would start with cai, headers and maybe a Mamo tb and/or pulley.

StreetRage320 · 01-06-2018, 10:07 AM

If you can find an extra 1k, you could go with the JRE-125 package. That's about 125 HP gain. It includes the remote tune.

ZMEnow · 01-06-2018, 10:42 AM

I would look into Janettys 75rwhp kit as it really wakes the car up, and being in ND you will really appreciate it with the cooler air. Just call him because I don't know if he still sales the 850's so u would be getting the ID1050x and I am not familiar with that tune with 91 octane and or torco mix.

If you can get 93 octane you would be very happy from expirence and done in about 4 hours.

d454brisson · 01-06-2018, 01:39 PM

125 package is great, and 120$ for new door hinges

Can'tHave2MuchHP · 01-06-2018, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d454brisson

125 package is great, and 120$ for new door hinges

JANNETTYRACING · 01-08-2018, 09:31 AM

Gentlemen, Thank you for the wonderful reviews and recommendations.

FargoZL1 please feel free to give me a call I will set you up with a package to fit your budget and give you the most bang for the buck. 203-753-7223 or tedj@jannettyracing.com

Ted.

01-05-2018, 06:28 PM	#1
FargoZL1 Drives: 2013 ZL1 Convertible Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Fargo, ND Posts: 14	Power potential ? Hey gang. I've got a 2013 zl1 convertible, only power mod so far is a muffler delete and a rotofab. I'm looking for advice on which bolt on mods will generate the most power while running 91 octane. That's as high as I can buy and still enjoy road trips. I just had my supercharger replaced under warranty. I know I'll need a tune and I'm not worried about the warranty, but I don't want to do a cam or headers. Looking to learn. Thank you. Attached Images

01-05-2018, 06:42 PM	#2
GONMAD510 Drives: 2013 ZL1 M6 Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: CA Bay Area Posts: 248	See my signature for the mods I have done to my car. Dyno numbers are listed too. Torque number is a little low because tires were slipping on the dyno. I did it all at once but it is not necessary. __________________ Fast 850cc Injectors, ATI Balancer, 8.66 Lower Pulley, 2.55 Upper Pulley, Lingenfelter CAI, Kooks LT with cat delete pipes, Noweeds Exhaust Cutouts (extremely loud under full throttle), BTR Stage 3 Cam, BTR Platinum 660 Valve Spring Kit, TR7ix Iridium Spark Plugs, Lingenfelter Solid Isolator, 160 Degree Thermostat, Larger SC Coolant Reservoir with Hose Relocation Kit, BMR 1.25" Lowering Springs, MGW Short Throw Shifter, Racing Brake 2 piece rotors front and rear, Starkweather Performance Custom Dyno Tune on 91 Octane. 691.38 RWHP 630.35 RWTQ

01-05-2018, 08:42 PM	#3
d454brisson Drives: 2014 ZL1 Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Baltimore MD Posts: 345	Do the headers, not a hard job with these cars and really wakes them up. iF worried about that maybe a pulley and Jannetty tune. I have the stock mid pipes to rear with headers and no cats and its a significant improvement. These car have a very specific upgrade track CAI pulley 5%-10% / tune headers / tune injectors, more pulley, BAP tune Cam / tune misc port polish, TB etc Last edited by d454brisson; 01-05-2018 at 09:06 PM.

01-05-2018, 11:18 PM	#5
StreetRage320 Those who need me got me Drives: 2022 ZL1 A10 Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Southwest, MN Posts: 624	The three folks above are right on..I am just really curious why you want to avoid headers? I get not wanting to open the engine up for a cam kit, but headers on these cars are not bad to do. If you have heard back things about aftermarket cats (which many seem to have problems with them on our higher boosted ZL1), I would just go catless. __________________

01-06-2018, 10:07 AM	#9
StreetRage320 Those who need me got me Drives: 2022 ZL1 A10 Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Southwest, MN Posts: 624	If you can find an extra 1k, you could go with the JRE-125 package. That's about 125 HP gain. It includes the remote tune. __________________

01-05-2018, 10:35 PM	#4
Can'tHave2MuchHP Drives: Fast Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Michigan Posts: 3,696	Power goal? What are you looking to spend? Fueling are going to be your first limits (Injectors, BAP). Your lower octane is going to force you to stay easy on the boost. No cam is also going to limit boost levels. If I were you: LT Headers - (I'd recommend ARH or Kooks, and go cat-less) 18% OD Pulley - Either 9.1" lower or 2.55" upper, both = 18%. ID850 or ID1050 Fuel Injectors - Injector Dynamics make the best IMO Colder plugs, Larger Reservoir, and 160 Degree stat. This should get you around 600-620 RWHP. I'd highly recommend looking up Ted Jannetty @ Jannetty Racing and giving him a call. I wouldn't trust anyone more than Ted when it comes to LSA modifications and Octane levels. He'll probably reiterate what I said above. Many people like to push higher boost on no cams, many people like to push more power on too little octane. Ted knows his stuff.

01-06-2018, 07:32 AM	#6
JB'sZL1 Drives: 2013 ZL1 and 2019 Ram Laramie Join Date: May 2017 Location: Milwaukee Posts: 1,259	Yeah. To narrow it down need your goals and budget.

01-06-2018, 09:55 AM	#8
JB'sZL1 Drives: 2013 ZL1 and 2019 Ram Laramie Join Date: May 2017 Location: Milwaukee Posts: 1,259	I would start with cai, headers and maybe a Mamo tb and/or pulley.

01-06-2018, 10:42 AM	#10
ZMEnow Drives: ZL1, 2013, tri-coat-red, manual Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,607	I would look into Janettys 75rwhp kit as it really wakes the car up, and being in ND you will really appreciate it with the cooler air. Just call him because I don't know if he still sales the 850's so u would be getting the ID1050x and I am not familiar with that tune with 91 octane and or torco mix. If you can get 93 octane you would be very happy from expirence and done in about 4 hours.

01-06-2018, 01:39 PM	#11
d454brisson Drives: 2014 ZL1 Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Baltimore MD Posts: 345	125 package is great, and 120$ for new door hinges

01-08-2018, 09:31 AM	#13
JANNETTYRACING Drives: BLUE CAMARO ZL1 1LE M6 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: ON THE DYNO WATERBURY CT. Posts: 15,231	Gentlemen, Thank you for the wonderful reviews and recommendations. FargoZL1 please feel free to give me a call I will set you up with a package to fit your budget and give you the most bang for the buck. 203-753-7223 or tedj@jannettyracing.com Ted. __________________ www.jannettyracing.com Celebrating 37 years Performance parts, Installation, Fabrication, Dyno tuning, Remote custom tuning, and alignments. 203-753-7223 Waterbury CT. 06705 email tedj@jannettyracing.com