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GHOSST2012 · 03-16-2018, 08:45 AM

So I just installed my n2mb wot box and it works great. Without any adjustments the 2 step popping is very rapid. Does anyone know what PID values to use for slower louder pops? This is just a personal preference.

christianchevell · 03-16-2018, 09:27 AM

Never heard of a WOT wide open throttle BOX for decel popping; let alone wanting Deceleration popping coming from the fuel cut off and adjusting the engines AFR or what ever to make more popping/burble with just a BOX its usually in the tune..

MY Camaro has dual mode and just naturally does it with the tune more than stock ; not that I would want more its pretty perfect as is and sounds bad ass, and not that I would want more or less and adjust things to make more minor fuel explosions from the hot exhaust caused by the fuel cutoff, I worry about my high flow cats enough...

And would think that forcing pops could be very bad for the engine; kind of what I thought they made it for was no lift shifts and that's not always a good thing especially for a non dedicated for drag race car, I don't go WOT and stay there for shifts unless I am spot on and getting fishy between gears not so fun. A slower louder pop may just force enough back into the chamber to mess you up.... and popping while going WOT is more a ricer kind of tune the thing for pops and to hell with the engine deal IMO....

Now the deal with those I thought was being able to not lift your foot to shift which I can already do with skill but have to be fast on the shift with my MGW if I am drag racing and really don't go to the floor board much as I have enough power to shred tires not even trying. A lower ET for racers though is a good thing, changing a car just to make more popping like lots of ricer videos ...well that's a matter of preference and I make little ricers around here envious if I down shift as they don't have but fart trumpets usually or a cheap little turbo and make lots of noise for feeling proud of their Econo turd...much different than a tuner who may spend mega bucks so they can go race which are rare and not so much on the street here. Usually it would be a WRX guy with stickers and a giant wing around here thinking he is all that.... And kind of sad, had to show up a 370 Z the other day and he was sad ...LOL real sad.... but noise for noise sake..IMO dangerous for valves with back pressure.

GHOSST2012 · 03-16-2018, 10:36 AM

I get where you're coming from but not sure you understand the original post. This is not a decel pop. It is a launch control used for racing. I just want to know if anyone with this box has messed with the PID values to change exhaust note.

InFiD3ViL · 03-16-2018, 10:38 AM

Probably don't know WTF I am talking about or misunderstanding your post, but I thought that the 'signature' 2-step sound is tied heavily to idle speed activated?

GHOSST2012 · 03-16-2018, 10:47 AM

Yes the tone of the two step does heavily depend on the rpm you choose to activate it at. The wot box holds rpm by cutting power to the ignition coils. There is a value in the wot box program that affects how quickly and evenly this cut off occurs. I want to see if anyone has found a good value to use.

Moreair1 · 03-16-2018, 08:10 PM

N2mb doesn't have this feature, lnc2000 for example has it so you can retard the timing to create boost or more popping, to do this with the n2mb you would need to do the iat relay method to allow access to the -40 timing table, so the only thing you really have control is the rpms

Moreair1 · 03-16-2018, 08:18 PM

As far as pid access you will need the password which is easy to find but you'll probably find the stock settings to work best. The PID control determines how the car reaches / holds revs for the 2-step and I wouldn't mess with it unless you understand how it works.

GHOSST2012 · 03-17-2018, 12:15 AM

Jon from n2mb got back to me. The solution is to input a different number of cylinders in the software such as 6,4, or 2.

03-16-2018, 08:45 AM	#1
GHOSST2012 Drives: 2012 Camaro SS Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Clifton NJ Posts: 167	WOT Box So I just installed my n2mb wot box and it works great. Without any adjustments the 2 step popping is very rapid. Does anyone know what PID values to use for slower louder pops? This is just a personal preference.

03-16-2018, 09:27 AM	#2
christianchevell old school chevy rodder Drives: 2021 zl1 a-10 WildCherry Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Oregon Posts: 5,622 View My Garage	Never heard of a WOT wide open throttle BOX for decel popping; let alone wanting Deceleration popping coming from the fuel cut off and adjusting the engines AFR or what ever to make more popping/burble with just a BOX its usually in the tune.. MY Camaro has dual mode and just naturally does it with the tune more than stock ; not that I would want more its pretty perfect as is and sounds bad ass, and not that I would want more or less and adjust things to make more minor fuel explosions from the hot exhaust caused by the fuel cutoff, I worry about my high flow cats enough... And would think that forcing pops could be very bad for the engine; kind of what I thought they made it for was no lift shifts and that's not always a good thing especially for a non dedicated for drag race car, I don't go WOT and stay there for shifts unless I am spot on and getting fishy between gears not so fun. A slower louder pop may just force enough back into the chamber to mess you up.... and popping while going WOT is more a ricer kind of tune the thing for pops and to hell with the engine deal IMO.... Now the deal with those I thought was being able to not lift your foot to shift which I can already do with skill but have to be fast on the shift with my MGW if I am drag racing and really don't go to the floor board much as I have enough power to shred tires not even trying. A lower ET for racers though is a good thing, changing a car just to make more popping like lots of ricer videos ...well that's a matter of preference and I make little ricers around here envious if I down shift as they don't have but fart trumpets usually or a cheap little turbo and make lots of noise for feeling proud of their Econo turd...much different than a tuner who may spend mega bucks so they can go race which are rare and not so much on the street here. Usually it would be a WRX guy with stickers and a giant wing around here thinking he is all that.... And kind of sad, had to show up a 370 Z the other day and he was sad ...LOL real sad.... but noise for noise sake..IMO dangerous for valves with back pressure. __________________ 2021 Wild Cherry ZL1 A10, Sunroof, Data,Red Carbon Interior, Nav, RotoFab Big Gulp , Elite x2ultra, Borla ATAK, Driveshaft shop, BMR susp, Speed covers, intercoolers, ATI , 2650 MAG, DSX lid, 103 NW, TSP Longtubes & cats, LPE, 1le mods, ,LME cover, Katech pump and chain, Trunnions, BTR stage 2, LPE boostapump, Gforce, Speed eng , Granetteli, etc etc

03-16-2018, 10:38 AM	#4
InFiD3ViL Drives: 2010 CGM 2SS/RS LS3 Swapped A6 Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Spring Hill, FL Posts: 4,737	Probably don't know WTF I am talking about or misunderstanding your post, but I thought that the 'signature' 2-step sound is tied heavily to idle speed activated? __________________ 2010 CGM Camaro 2SS LS3 Swapped A6 - GPI LS3 SS1 .647/.638, (224/237, 112 +4, 7º overlap) on CamMotion 8620 core, BTR Platinum .660" Dual Spring kit w/titanium retainers, CHE bronze trunnion upgrade, stock heads milled @ .015, Melling HV 10296 oil pump, TSP 1-7/8" long tube headers (W/Catless Off-road Pipes), Corsa Xtreme 3" Catback, GPI Ported/Rod Mod Intake, Stage 2 Ported Throttle Body, Vararam OTR CAI, Mike Norris Gen 2 catch can + GM 1LE clean side separator, 160º thermostat - Megan Racing adjustable coilovers (lowered 1.75"), MRR M017 10/11" wheels-Tuned by Ryan @ GPI

03-16-2018, 08:10 PM	#6
Moreair1 Drives: 2011 ss convertible Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,329 View My Garage	N2mb doesn't have this feature, lnc2000 for example has it so you can retard the timing to create boost or more popping, to do this with the n2mb you would need to do the iat relay method to allow access to the -40 timing table, so the only thing you really have control is the rpms Attached Images __________________ Cai intake and a few other mods😎

03-16-2018, 08:18 PM	#7
Moreair1 Drives: 2011 ss convertible Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,329 View My Garage	As far as pid access you will need the password which is easy to find but you'll probably find the stock settings to work best. The PID control determines how the car reaches / holds revs for the 2-step and I wouldn't mess with it unless you understand how it works. __________________ Cai intake and a few other mods😎

03-16-2018, 10:36 AM	#3
GHOSST2012 Drives: 2012 Camaro SS Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Clifton NJ Posts: 167	I get where you're coming from but not sure you understand the original post. This is not a decel pop. It is a launch control used for racing. I just want to know if anyone with this box has messed with the PID values to change exhaust note.

03-16-2018, 10:47 AM	#5
GHOSST2012 Drives: 2012 Camaro SS Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Clifton NJ Posts: 167	Yes the tone of the two step does heavily depend on the rpm you choose to activate it at. The wot box holds rpm by cutting power to the ignition coils. There is a value in the wot box program that affects how quickly and evenly this cut off occurs. I want to see if anyone has found a good value to use.

03-17-2018, 12:15 AM	#8
GHOSST2012 Drives: 2012 Camaro SS Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Clifton NJ Posts: 167	Jon from n2mb got back to me. The solution is to input a different number of cylinders in the software such as 6,4, or 2.