I want the Z28 to be the BEST!

[ironpeddler]

Originally Posted by big hammer

so what is your ford boys excuses with the cts-v then? just wondering.

Excuses, I see no excuses just facts. Ford has nothing to compare with the Vette, unless its a Ford GT which they don't make anymore and Ford has nothing to compare with the CTS-V...so what's your point? No excuses, Ford just has nothing in the same sports car class or the sport sedan class or whatever the CTS-V falls under. Whats wrong with that? Who said Ford needed anything to compare witht the Vette or CTS-V??

[MontyCarlo]

You can come up with all sorts of reasons why the corvette shouldn't be compared to the pony cars, but the fact is that people with $60,000 to spend DO ask themselves "should I get a corvette or a high-end pony car?" They are, in fact, in competition, even if theory says they shouldn't be.

It's because of this that I don't think GM will make the Z28 all that powerful. Corvette is a cherished icon for the company, and something like a 600hp Camaro would be too much GM-to-GM competition (regardless of whether or not it has a back seat), and I think the company's learned its lesson about competing against its own brands.

[ironpeddler]

$60,000, where are you getting this number from?? The GT500 fully loaded, tax, title and everything isn't even close to $60k lol. Believe me I know, my 2010 GT500 came with every available option. And no people with $60k do not always ask themselves "should i get a corvette or a high-end pony car?" I had $60k to spend and the vette wasn't even in the picture...no back seat not possible for me. Sounds cheesy but that's the way it is.

[Stew]

I really don't see people cross shopping the Corvette and the GT500, they are too different. As said Corvette is a 2 seater Sportscar, the GT500 is a pony car, plain and simple, A Z28 on the other hand would be as direct as it gets and a lot more fun IMHO.

[a_Username]

I would guarantee they cross shop them since they are at the same price point. The average customer will get the best bang for his/her buck, and I doubt before they go they say to themselves, "I'm not going to compare the Corvette and GT500's because they're in different categories as cars."

[GQ4Life]

well they said z28 going to be $55K so that doesnt seem cheaper then the GT500 so lets kick its ass on the performance stats and track

[Speed74SS]

The 2 seater vs 4 seater is a big deciding factor. People looking for a performance car will sometimes be cross shopping the Corvette, Camaro & GT500. I was cross shopping all 3 before I made a decision to get the Camaro and make it as close to the other 2 as I could get. It was the seat option that made me make my choice, upon a request from my wife of course.

[ironpeddler]

Originally Posted by a_Username

I would guarantee they cross shop them since they are at the same price point. The average customer will get the best bang for his/her buck, and I doubt before they go they say to themselves, "I'm not going to compare the Corvette and GT500's because they're in different categories as cars."

Yeah, like i said one has a back seat the other doesn't. I'm sure there are alot of people who need back seats even if it's not much. Kids, extra room, whatever it may be. So why would they even take into consideration a vette if a back seat is a must?? They wont say "I'm not going to compare the vette with the gt500 because they're in different categories as cars." They will say "I'm not going to compare the vette and gt500 cause one has a back seat and the other doesn't and i need a back seat." Very simple logic, I'm sorry if certain people don't understand. They will look at M3's, maybe some kind of mercedes, a gt500, 370z, a GT-R (has a back seat believe it or not) if they have enough money but they will not look at a vette cause it has no back seat. Simple as that. Not saying that no one will cross shop the vette and gt500, just saying that not everyone does like your "guarantee" states.

[a_Username]

Originally Posted by ironpeddler

Yeah, like i said one has a back seat the other doesn't. I'm sure there are alot of people who need back seats even if it's not much. Kids, extra room, whatever it may be. So why would they even take into consideration a vette if a back seat is a must?? They wont say "I'm not going to compare the vette with the gt500 because they're in different categories as cars." They will say "I'm not going to compare the vette and gt500 cause one has a back seat and the other doesn't and i need a back seat." Very simple logic, I'm sorry if certain people don't understand. They will look at M3's, maybe some kind of mercedes, a gt500, 370z, a GT-R (has a back seat believe it or not) if they have enough money but they will not look at a vette cause it has no back seat. Simple as that. Not saying that no one will cross shop the vette and gt500, just saying that not everyone does like your "guarantee" states.

You're missing the point... you're saying they're different classes of car and which you are right. Cross-shopping means they will buy whichever car that fits their needs, and I'll use your example of the backseat problem. They looked at both cars and found the GT500 to be a better buy because of a backseat, and no one is arguing with you on that lol. So I'm sure this sticks to my guarantee...

[big hammer]

Originally Posted by a_Username

I would guarantee they cross shop them since they are at the same price point. The average customer will get the best bang for his/her buck, and I doubt before they go they say to themselves, "I'm not going to compare the Corvette and GT500's because they're in different categories as cars."

it's just a ford owner internet thing. they like feeling oh so superior but when someone mentions z06 then they realize they own the slowest 500+ hp car ever made.

[Stew]

THis is funny because the latest issue of Car and Driver has a comparison between the Corvette Gran Sport and the GT500. THe Vette won, but what stuck out was there was a huge price difference. THe Vette started at like 55k and the way it was optioned out to 65k. Big difference! Given it was a Grand Sport, but that its what it takes to get the betteer suspension package (Z51) now. They are 2 totally different cars, of course you could crossshop, but using the fact that people will is a huge contradiction to what goes on when the Camaro is compared to say a M3 or C63 where everyone is ike no they won't crossshop those, but heck, lets just use the Vette against the GT500 even though a M3 has a lot more in common with a Camaro SS than a Corvette has in common with a GT500....................

[MontyCarlo]

Just look through this very site and you'll see how often people ask whether they should get a corvette or a 2SS. To hell with the back seat.

[ironpeddler]

Originally Posted by big hammer

it's just a ford owner internet thing. they like feeling oh so superior but when someone mentions z06 then they realize they own the slowest 500+ hp car ever made.

The Z06 is what $80k new ? I mean it has nothing to do with a ford owner internet thing lol. It has to do with about a $30k price difference. Of course the Z06 is superior anyone who thinks that a stock gt500 is superior to a stock Z06 would be a fool, fanboi for one brand or not. For $30k more or $20k more the Z06 better be freaking superior.

Slowest 500hp car ever made...I guess, whatever makes you feel better.

[a_Username]

Originally Posted by ironpeddler

The Z06 is what $80k new ? I mean it has nothing to do with a ford owner internet thing lol. It has to do with about a $30k price difference. Of course the Z06 is superior anyone who thinks that a stock gt500 is superior to a stock Z06 would be a fool, fanboi for one brand or not. For $30k more or $20k more the Z06 better be freaking superior.

Slowest 500hp car ever made...I guess, whatever makes you feel better.

It's a $26,000 difference. However, (hate to bring this up again; people who are hypocritical are annoying), why doesn't the huge price difference come into play when it's the SS vs. GT500?