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drperry · 10-07-2009, 05:23 PM

For an SS, from what I've been able to find, you need the 20" rims.

RCLapCar · 10-07-2009, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2010SLVRBULIT

how is the suspension on the 'RS' package different from the base LS/LT models?

It isn't. Only the wheel and tire is different.

RCLapCar · 10-07-2009, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wrek

This is a lot of information. Can someone sum up what is needed for an SS RS for winter or all-season tires?

For the SS you MUST have 20" rims. Tire rack shows only one rim for these tires (and it's $1440 each, ouch).

As for tires according to tire rack your choices are:

Pirelli Scorpion Ice & Snow 245/45R20 $235USD
Bridgestone Blizzak LM-60 245/45R20 $260USD

There might be more but this is all tire rack shows.

And of course you need the TPMS sensors for each wheel as well.

Can't Afford A Vette · 10-07-2009, 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wrek

What about the TPMS?

Hey,

It was the 4 Tires (X-ice), 4 Rims (18" 5-Spokes), 4 TPMS, Mounted, Balanced, Shipped, Taxes, Duties and everything you need to install the tires on ur car for $1780ish. Run a quote from the tirerack website and once you do the 'estimate shipping' it will give you a price including all of the above. Like I said it was a pretty good price (compared to other quotes I had).

drperry · 10-07-2009, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCLapCar

For the SS you MUST have 20" rims. Tire rack shows only one rim for these tires (and it's $1440 each, ouch).

As for tires according to tire rack your choices are:

Pirelli Scorpion Ice & Snow 245/45R20 $235USD
Bridgestone Blizzak LM-60 245/45R20 $260USD

There might be more but this is all tire rack shows.

And of course you need the TPMS sensors for each wheel as well.

Actually, if you choose "Winter tire package" or whatever for the SS, it still gives you the option of an 18" rim for some reason...

Camarodriver · 10-07-2009, 10:00 PM

Gents, I have some news regarding the tire sizes for winter rubber. I have been asking for a long time just how thin a tire I could get!? My dealer finally did some work today and told me that I could run as thin as 225/60 R18. this makes much more sense than trying to slap on 245/50 R19's in the snow. He has given me the choice of either a Toyo or a Firestone Winterforce. Any ideas on which is the better winter tire? I have run Toyo before and they were quite good but very soft on pavement. Not sure if it's the same tire line, I will ask. Firestone is new to me as I have never run them before. originally they recommended Pirelli Scorpions, but I am not sure if they make this smaller size. Anyways, I will dig a little and tell you all more soon enough.

eB

Camarodriver · 10-07-2009, 10:06 PM

About sizes, aspect ratios and widths of tire, I thought this may come in useful in this thread:

Width x Aspect Ratio = Section Height
Section Height x 2 = Combined Section Height
Combined Section Height + Wheel Diameter = Tire Diameter

Example: 185/60R14 85H or 185/60HR14

185mm x .60=111mm
111mm x 2=222mm
222mm + 355.6mm(14")= 577.6mm or 22.74"

The first number is the width of the tire in millimeters, measured from sidewall to sidewall. To convert to inches, divide by 25.4 In the example above, the width is 185mm or 7.28".

The second number is the aspect ratio. This is a ratio of sidewall height to width. In the example above, the tire is 7.28" wide, multiply that by the aspect ratio to find the height of one sidewall. In this case, 185x0.60=111mm or 7.28"x0.60=4.36".

The last number is the diameter of the wheel in inches.

To figure the outside diameter of a tire, take the sidewall height and multiply by 2,(remember that the diameter is made up of 2 sidewalls, the one above the wheel, and the one below the wheel) and add the diameter of the wheel to get your answer.

I got it from Tireracks' FAQ's.

eB

Riderover40 · 10-07-2009, 10:41 PM

Consider the Hercules Avalanche Extreme ! 225/60R 18

RCLapCar · 10-08-2009, 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drperry

Actually, if you choose "Winter tire package" or whatever for the SS, it still gives you the option of an 18" rim for some reason...

The ONLY reason I can think of why they have the 18" option is for the rears. I haven't really paid attention to the rear brakes in the SS but if it's like other cars I've seen, then they are smaller than the fronts. Assuming they are the same size in the rear as the LT (or even are the exact same brakes), you should be able to fit the 18" rims on the REAR of the car. The front, with those large Brembos, can only ever use 20" or higher. Again I have no idea how big the rear brakes on the SS are so this is just speculation on my part. Personally having 20" rims on the front and 18" rims on the rear would just look stupid, especially since getting matching rims would be near impossible.

drperry · 10-08-2009, 04:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCLapCar

The ONLY reason I can think of why they have the 18" option is for the rears. I haven't really paid attention to the rear brakes in the SS but if it's like other cars I've seen, then they are smaller than the fronts. Assuming they are the same size in the rear as the LT (or even are the exact same brakes), you should be able to fit the 18" rims on the REAR of the car. The front, with those large Brembos, can only ever use 20" or higher. Again I have no idea how big the rear brakes on the SS are so this is just speculation on my part. Personally having 20" rims on the front and 18" rims on the rear would just look stupid, especially since getting matching rims would be near impossible.

Unless it's a typo, in the brocure, or the website ( I can't remember where I saw it) the rear brakes are bigger... But unless the calipers are ginormous, there's a slim chance we can squeeze 18s on... A very slim chance... Not very likely at all... lmao

sigma_1966 · 10-08-2009, 07:46 AM

$160.00 each at Nantucket in Scarborough

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riderover40

Consider the Hercules Avalanche Extreme ! 225/60R 18

dlynds · 10-08-2009, 03:16 PM

Hey guys,
We have a 2LT RS, and the best price we could get including tire sensors was from the Tire Barn, taxes and delivery in was about $1750 CDN (18"). We tired to find rims around here and called many Canadian stores, all said that they could not get the bolt pattern needed, and GM wanted about $300+ each to order in steel rims.
We were told that 18" would work all the way aroud, we are having them installed tomorrow at the dealer - will post if problems occur.
P.S. - "Garage it" , we get it, enjoy your extra money!

drperry · 10-08-2009, 03:34 PM

It's the same bolt pattern as the previous gen camaro, I believe... Which is the same as an s-series... and Corvettes.

tededfred · 10-08-2009, 03:51 PM

For those who have bought from tire rack: are you able to install them yourself? From what I understand, the dealership needs to program the computer to read the new sensor... has anyone had that done yet? costs?

10-07-2009, 10:00 PM	#76
Camarodriver Drives: 1975 Camaro, 2010 2LT, 2011/2SSrs Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Montreal Posts: 611 View My Garage	Gents, I have some news regarding the tire sizes for winter rubber. I have been asking for a long time just how thin a tire I could get!? My dealer finally did some work today and told me that I could run as thin as 225/60 R18. this makes much more sense than trying to slap on 245/50 R19's in the snow. He has given me the choice of either a Toyo or a Firestone Winterforce. Any ideas on which is the better winter tire? I have run Toyo before and they were quite good but very soft on pavement. Not sure if it's the same tire line, I will ask. Firestone is new to me as I have never run them before. originally they recommended Pirelli Scorpions, but I am not sure if they make this smaller size. Anyways, I will dig a little and tell you all more soon enough. eB __________________ Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition by the mediocre mind.... Al E 2010 Summit White 2LT Camaro <-(GONE)*New 2011 2SS/RS SW M6 OEM Hurst shifter ordered Oct 7th, 2010 The perma-grin effect pictured above by a good buddy giving me a ride in my Camaro! Used 75 Camaro = $3500 Rolling restoration over 10 years = $5000 $5 of gas burned in 10 seconds = Priceless!

10-07-2009, 10:06 PM	#77
Camarodriver Drives: 1975 Camaro, 2010 2LT, 2011/2SSrs Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Montreal Posts: 611 View My Garage	About sizes, aspect ratios and widths of tire, I thought this may come in useful in this thread: Width x Aspect Ratio = Section Height Section Height x 2 = Combined Section Height Combined Section Height + Wheel Diameter = Tire Diameter Example: 185/60R14 85H or 185/60HR14 185mm x .60=111mm 111mm x 2=222mm 222mm + 355.6mm(14")= 577.6mm or 22.74" The first number is the width of the tire in millimeters, measured from sidewall to sidewall. To convert to inches, divide by 25.4 In the example above, the width is 185mm or 7.28". The second number is the aspect ratio. This is a ratio of sidewall height to width. In the example above, the tire is 7.28" wide, multiply that by the aspect ratio to find the height of one sidewall. In this case, 185x0.60=111mm or 7.28"x0.60=4.36". The last number is the diameter of the wheel in inches. To figure the outside diameter of a tire, take the sidewall height and multiply by 2,(remember that the diameter is made up of 2 sidewalls, the one above the wheel, and the one below the wheel) and add the diameter of the wheel to get your answer. I got it from Tireracks' FAQ's. eB __________________ Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition by the mediocre mind.... Al E 2010 Summit White 2LT Camaro <-(GONE)*New 2011 2SS/RS SW M6 OEM Hurst shifter ordered Oct 7th, 2010 The perma-grin effect pictured above by a good buddy giving me a ride in my Camaro! Used 75 Camaro = $3500 Rolling restoration over 10 years = $5000 $5 of gas burned in 10 seconds = Priceless!

10-07-2009, 10:41 PM	#78
Riderover40 Drives: 2010 ABM Camaro 2SS LS3 w/RS Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: London, Ontario Posts: 648 View My Garage	Consider the Hercules Avalanche Extreme ! 225/60R 18 __________________ Roto Fab CAI, Magnacharger MP2300, Kooks HO SS 1-7/8" LT's, Kook's Catted Connectors, Corsa SS Dual Rear Exit Cat-Back for A6 with Lasered Livernois Signature 4" Dual Wall Exit Pipes, Barton Short Throw. 546 RWHP 517 RWT This Car Rocks !! "Bring It On" GT-500

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10-07-2009, 05:23 PM	#71
drperry Drives: Chevy Blazer Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Grande Prairie, AB Posts: 300	For an SS, from what I've been able to find, you need the 20" rims.

10-08-2009, 03:16 PM	#82
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10-08-2009, 03:34 PM	#83
drperry Drives: Chevy Blazer Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Grande Prairie, AB Posts: 300	It's the same bolt pattern as the previous gen camaro, I believe... Which is the same as an s-series... and Corvettes.

10-08-2009, 03:51 PM	#84
tededfred Drives: 2010 Rally Yellow Camaro 2LT!! Join Date: May 2009 Location: Toronto Posts: 143	For those who have bought from tire rack: are you able to install them yourself? From what I understand, the dealership needs to program the computer to read the new sensor... has anyone had that done yet? costs?