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SecondZ28 · 06-02-2018, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Gen6_1Le

everything in that Zl1 is old tech compared to a new 1LE

Right...because a new 2018 SS decided not to have optional 6-piston front /4-pot rear brakes, they don't use that old TR-6060 anymore, forget PTM, and they definitely don't still use the 3rd Gen Magnetorheological shocks that debuted all the way back on the 2012 ZL1....oh wait yes they do

Gen6_1Le · 06-03-2018, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by SecondZ28

Right...because a new 2018 SS decided not to have optional 6-piston front /4-pot rear brakes, they don't use that old TR-6060 anymore, forget PTM, and they definitely don't still use the 3rd Gen Magnetorheological shocks that debuted all the way back on the 2012 ZL1....oh wait yes they do

Mag shocks has been around for over 15 years and has gone through many changes , the 1LE just happens to have the best available right now , better then C7 Corvettes till owners complained and now GM offers a new calibration for it , at $350 from the dealer , GM is not offering it for the Gen 5 ZL1 . I wouldn't pay much for a used 5th Gen ZL1, i feel you are just losing out on too much .

c-57d · 06-03-2018, 08:20 AM

I'm keeping my 14 SS ragtop and looking to add a 14-15 ZL1 ragtop. Just not triple black this time.
My 2¢

jaros44sr · 06-03-2018, 10:22 AM

There is a 2012 ZL1 for sale locally @ 50,000 with 380 miles on it. saw it yesterday at a cars and coffee meet, just could'nt justify selling my SS/RS '15

SecondZ28 · 06-03-2018, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Gen6_1Le

the 1LE just happens to have the best available right now

They are the same 3rd Generation (dual coil) shocks that debuted in 2012

Gen6_1Le · 06-03-2018, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by SecondZ28

They are the same 3rd Generation (dual coil) shocks that debuted in 2012

Yes but it stops there , the Gen 6 1LE adds eLSD into the PTM and new tunning and calibration of the MRC which in all is far more advanced then whats in the the gen 5 ZL1.

Gen6_1Le · 06-03-2018, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by LCPLPunk

Why not a 5th gen 1LE?

That would be a great choice , i went from a 2010 SS/L99 to a 2014 SS 1LE and there is a huge difference in driving those two cars . I would think you can buy a 2015 1LE well under 30k .

Yellow Bullet · 06-03-2018, 11:47 AM

Fully loaded 14-15 1le can be had in the 24-28k near me

Rahnok · 06-03-2018, 02:07 PM

I think you should go with a 14/15 1LE. It’s much more practical as a DD than a Grand Sport and it’s much cheaper than getting a brand new 1LE.

zr1chris · 06-03-2018, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Rahnok

I think you should go with a 14/15 1LE. It’s much more practical as a DD than a Grand Sport and it’s much cheaper than getting a brand new 1LE.

It's NOT going to be a DD.

I'm also not interested in another 5th gen SS since I already have one. Granted the 1LE will handle better and sound slightly better. I like the way my car looks better. I'm not a fan of the black 5th gen 1LE wheels which is the only color they came in. The 6th gen wheels look WAY better. I just don't feel like I'm gaining much going that route. In the end it's still a 5th gen SS which is what I have now.

Venomcustom · 06-03-2018, 03:33 PM

The 6th gen 1le wheels are fantastic but the 5th ZL1black wheels on the 5th gen 1le are in my opinion the best looking 5th gen wheels.

SecondZ28 · 06-03-2018, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Gen6_1Le

new tunning and calibration of the MRC which in all is far more advanced then whats in the the gen 5 ZL1.

So far advanced yet it's still a Gen 3 and not a Gen 4..

Gen6_1Le · 06-03-2018, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SecondZ28

So far advanced yet it's still a Gen 3 and not a Gen 4..

It is a updated version of the 3rd gen MRC in the 1LE .What i do know is its not luck that makes the 6th gen 1LE faster around tracks like Laguna Seca then cars with a lot more HP and cost much more , including the 5th gen ZL1 and Z28 .
50. Camaro SS 1LE Package unknown 1:37.78 461 / 1699
51. Porsche 911 Turbo unknown 1:37.80 500 / 1595
52. Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 Randy Pobst 1:37.82 507 / 1702
53. Ferrari F12 Berlinetta Randy Pobst 1:38.04 740 / 1699
54. Chevrolet Corvette Stingray Randy Pobst 1:38.28 461 / 1577
55. Cadillac CTS-V (Mk III) Randy Pobst 1:38.52 649 / 1877
56. Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 unknown 1:38.70 647 / 1528
57. Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 Randy Pobst 1:38.70 659 / 1750
58. Audi R8 V10 5.2 FSI Plus Randy Pobst 1:38.70 550 / 1622
59. Jaguar F-Type SVR unknown 1:38.75 575 / 1797
60. Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG unknown 1:38.82 571 / 1685
61. C 63 AMG Coupe Black Series Randy Pobst 1:38.90 517 / 1748
62. Porsche 911 Carrera 4S (991) Randy Pobst 1:39.00 400 / 1465
63. Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 Randy Pobst 1:39.18 588 / 1838

zr1chris · 06-03-2018, 05:51 PM

Sorry but I don't know how much stock I put in those lap times. Unless that's a C4 ZR1 there is no way on Earth a 1LE is faster than a C6 ZR1 in any way shape or form.

The first C6 ZR1 beat the Z28 at the Nurb by 11 seconds (The 13' beat it by 15) yet lost to the Z28 on your list at Laguna Seca.

Either the drivers are the huge difference or maybe they forgot to put ZL1 before the 1LE instead of SS

View Poll Results: What should I buy?
12-13 Grand Sport	24	12.18%
14-15 ZL1	72	36.55%
18 1SS 1LE (new)	51	25.89%
just keep my 2010 2SS	50	25.38%
Voters: 197. You may not vote on this poll

06-03-2018, 08:20 AM	#73
c-57d Drives: 14 2SS/RS Triple Black Ragtop LS3 Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: California Bay Area 95008 Posts: 305 View My Garage	I'm keeping my 14 SS ragtop and looking to add a 14-15 ZL1 ragtop. Just not triple black this time. My 2¢ __________________ Come see the violence inherent in the sysadmin.

06-03-2018, 11:47 AM	#78
Yellow Bullet Drives: 2017 Chevy Sonic RS 1.4T Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Riverview, Florida Posts: 327	Fully loaded 14-15 1le can be had in the 24-28k near me __________________ 2015 Camaro RS/SS SIM LS3- Sold 2017 Sonic Mosaic Black RS 1.4T

06-03-2018, 02:07 PM	#79
Rahnok Fish Poop Aficionado Drives: 2015 2LS SIM Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Covington, GA Posts: 304 View My Garage	I think you should go with a 14/15 1LE. It’s much more practical as a DD than a Grand Sport and it’s much cheaper than getting a brand new 1LE. __________________

06-03-2018, 10:22 AM	#74
jaros44sr Drives: 2015camaro ss/rs Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: philadephia, pa. Posts: 22	There is a 2012 ZL1 for sale locally @ 50,000 with 380 miles on it. saw it yesterday at a cars and coffee meet, just could'nt justify selling my SS/RS '15

06-03-2018, 03:33 PM	#81
Venomcustom Hard to want. Drives: 2020 red hot 1SS 1LE Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Nashville Tennessee Posts: 533	The 6th gen 1le wheels are fantastic but the 5th ZL1black wheels on the 5th gen 1le are in my opinion the best looking 5th gen wheels.

06-03-2018, 05:51 PM	#84
zr1chris Drives: 2018 Camaro 1SS/1LE Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Port Saint Lucie FL Posts: 1,224	Sorry but I don't know how much stock I put in those lap times. Unless that's a C4 ZR1 there is no way on Earth a 1LE is faster than a C6 ZR1 in any way shape or form. The first C6 ZR1 beat the Z28 at the Nurb by 11 seconds (The 13' beat it by 15) yet lost to the Z28 on your list at Laguna Seca. Either the drivers are the huge difference or maybe they forgot to put ZL1 before the 1LE instead of SS