5th Gen or 6th Gen?

[Gen6_1Le]

Originally Posted by Royal Tiger

Good point. Has anyone seen a picture of a 1969 and 2015 Camaro SS side by side?

Yes, and if you haven't don't look for one because its not pretty. Huge difference in size .

[gringo]

Originally Posted by Gen6_1Le

Yes, and if you haven't don't look for one because its not pretty. Huge difference in size .

Well, let's not get into the size argument. Yes, the 6th gen is smaller than the 5th gen, but only slightly. 2" shorter in wheel base and overall length, about 1.5" smaller in width and about an 1" shorter in height. .5" of that reduction in height is due to slightly shorter aspect ratio OEM tires on the 6th gen.

However, you go park a 6th gen next to any 1st through 3rd gen F-body and it'll look huge and out of scale. Even next to the slightly larger 4th gen, the 6th gen looks oversized.

[redcoats1976]

Originally Posted by Gen6_1Le

Ask this guy .
Just because they didn't put the gas door in the same place as the last gen don't make it misplaced , i would rather have it behind the license plate and unseen . The quarter windows on the 5th and 6th are useless and they should have gone 2nd gen and got rid of them and open up the rear window wider . If you ever get a chance to see the hood of a 6th Gen 1LE up close the crease look as you call it looks much better because it shows more contrast , those creases flow from the rear bumper over the roof, down the hood and follows down the front grille and bumper to splitter . I call it a jigsaw effect , its a great thing for those that are into details .

the only two design aspects that i have against the 6th gen are the hood lines and less interior space.ive driven one,and it drove very well,but it would kind of irk me to pay $1600 to get the v6 as an option when in 2015 it was the base engine.therefore i found a CPO 2015 RS. and saved a bunch of money too.what is it we were fighting over anyway,as far as im concerened they are both camaros.

[Gen6_1Le]

Originally Posted by gringo

The gas lid door location really bugs me too. Even worse, you have owners who decide to get a custom gas lid door or wrap the stock lid flat black which makes it look even more hideous.

Another thing that bugs me are the panel cut lines. You know, where the metal body meets the flexible urethane parts. For example, the lower rocker panels. They go nearly half way up the body sides in front of the rear wheels. As the urethane rocker panel slightly shrinks as it ages, that cut line is going to open up. Then, all you're going to see is this big black line gap on the side of the body.

The edge of the rear bumper attachment point is another issue. Instead of making (a more or less) straight line back from the rear wheel to just under the tail light area, the bumper edge actually slopes upward as it goes back to the tail light panel area.

The front bumper is similar and has that weird swoop that angles backward before going up to the top of the front fender line. These issues with the panel cut lines are a minor annoyance because most new cars today have the same problem. However, if I'm comparing the design merits of the 6th gen with that of the 5th gen, I like how they executed the panel cut lines on the 5th gen much better.

I get it with the little things that bother people , when i bought my 14 1LE i got it without the RS package and it drove me nuts that the roof ditch rails were not painted the body color, it just didn't look finished to me .
I believe as time goes on the design of the 6th gen will be more accepted in the used car market when it can be bought cheaper.

[Gen6_1Le]

Originally Posted by gringo

Well, let's not get into the size argument. Yes, the 6th gen is smaller than the 5th gen, but only slightly. 2" shorter in wheel base and overall length, about 1.5" smaller in width and about an 1" shorter in height. .5" of that reduction in height is due to slightly shorter aspect ratio OEM tires on the 6th gen.

However, you go park a 6th gen next to any 1st through 3rd gen F-body and it'll look huge and out of scale. Even next to the slightly larger 4th gen, the 6th gen looks oversized.

Yeah the 6th Gen is the same way no doubt and same with Corvettes , ever see a 67 vette parked next to 18 Z06 ? I had my 1LE next to my friends 911 and i was surprised how close in size they were , don't get me wrong they are not that close but i was still surprised .

[IMadeYouReadThis]

the 6th gen V6 with a manual transmission is so good it feels that it must have been crafted by the hands of God himself. Lol.

I like 5th Gen too by the way they're all sexy bitches.

[L99problems]

Originally Posted by Gen6_1Le

Because they chose to make the Camaro smaller makes it a flaw? No i won't admit thats a flaw , what is a flaw is the understeer with 5th Gen SS . Yes the 6th Gen has less interior and cargo space by design not flawed . If someone needs more space then the Camaro is not for them at all . The Camaro Makes a perfect second car as it is for me ,which i have plenty of room and cargo space for what i use it for . The Camaro is not made for everyone its just that simple .

This exactly. Things like appearance, fuel door location, and interior/cargo space are subjective. I personally prefer the smaller interior of the 6th gen over my 5th gen. I'm a small guy and feel like the 6th gen has more of a sporty feel this way. Bigger/taller guys will probably disagree and that's totally fine, this is why interior space is subjective. On the other hand things like: Power, handling, weight, interior quality (regardless of space), and technology are all non-subjective. Those are all qualities where the 6th gen is clearly superior. And the price reflects that lol. Nothing against 5th gens, I own one and its my daily driver and I love the car to death. But I also have a lot of seat time in a 6th gen SS and its simply in a different league.

[BLK141SS]

Originally Posted by Gen6_1Le

Yes, and if you haven't don't look for one because its not pretty. Huge difference in size .

Here's some pictures with a 5th Gen and a 69.

I'm not going to hot link his pictures so here is a link to the thread.
https://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144580

[Royal Tiger]

Originally Posted by BLK141SS

Here's some pictures with a 5th Gen and a 69.

I'm not going to hot link his pictures so here is a link to the thread.
https://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144580

That doesn’t look bad at all!

[gringo]

Originally Posted by Gen6_1Le

Yeah the 6th Gen is the same way no doubt and same with Corvettes , ever see a 67 vette parked next to 18 Z06 ? I had my 1LE next to my friends 911 and i was surprised how close in size they were , don't get me wrong they are not that close but i was still surprised .

If it was a newer 911, I can understand that. The newer 911's are a far cry from the older ones like the 993 series or older. Talk about being oversized. Some 911 models are approaching 3800 lbs curb weight!

That's nearly 4000 lbs for a Porsche 911 and they say the 5th gen was a pig. lol!

[PDXSSCE]

Originally Posted by Royal Tiger

That doesn’t look bad at all!

It does to someone that feels a need to defend their purchase of a 6th generation.

[gringo]

Originally Posted by camar0ss

This exactly. Things like appearance, fuel door location, and interior/cargo space are subjective. I personally prefer the smaller interior of the 6th gen over my 5th gen. I'm a small guy and feel like the 6th gen has more of a sporty feel this way. Bigger/taller guys will probably disagree and that's totally fine, this is why interior space is subjective. On the other hand things like: Power, handling, weight, interior quality (regardless of space), and technology are all non-subjective. Those are all qualities where the 6th gen is clearly superior. And the price reflects that lol. Nothing against 5th gens, I own one and its my daily driver and I love the car to death. But I also have a lot of seat time in a 6th gen SS and its simply in a different league.

Interior space is not subjective. The car either has more room, the same room or less room. On the 6th gen, it has less room. The backseat is basically useless for adults.

On the 5th gen, you could at least fit someone of average stature in the backseat and go for a short road trip. The 6th gen will have you crying within the first 5 minutes of sitting back there.

It was a bad move by GM to make the 6th gen less practical. If you want a sports/sporty car with no room in the back to fit people, they have the Corvette for that.

The trunk lost a ton of capacity too. I don't know why they made it so narrow. What's in the space between the inside of the 1/4 panel and the carpet panel?

It seems to me that if you remove those restrictive carpet panels on the sides, you could gain a lot of width inside the trunk.

[motorhead]

Originally Posted by gringo

Interior space is not subjective. The car either has more room, the same room or less room. On the 6th gen, it has less room. The backseat is basically useless for adults.

On the 5th gen, you could at least fit someone of average stature in the backseat and go for a short road trip. The 6th gen will have you crying within the first 5 minutes of sitting back there.

It was a bad move by GM to make the 6th gen less practical. If you want a sports/sporty car with no room in the back to fit people, they have the Corvette for that.

The trunk lost a ton of capacity too. I don't know why they made it so narrow. What's in the space between the inside of the 1/4 panel and the carpet panel?

It seems to me that if you remove those restrictive carpet panels on the sides, you could gain a lot of width inside the trunk.

He may mean that the less interior space may not mean anything to some. I know i dont really care that adults cant sit back there. To me neither the gen5 nor the gen6 are practical. If you want practical performance buy an SS or a Charger. And as far as why not just buy a vette than, well, some people actually want a Camaro not a Vette.

[L99problems]

Originally Posted by gringo

Interior space is not subjective. The car either has more room, the same room or less room. On the 6th gen, it has less room. The backseat is basically useless for adults.

On the 5th gen, you could at least fit someone of average stature in the backseat and go for a short road trip. The 6th gen will have you crying within the first 5 minutes of sitting back there.

It was a bad move by GM to make the 6th gen less practical. If you want a sports/sporty car with no room in the back to fit people, they have the Corvette for that.

The trunk lost a ton of capacity too. I don't know why they made it so narrow. What's in the space between the inside of the 1/4 panel and the carpet panel?


It seems to me that if you remove those restrictive carpet panels on the sides, you could gain a lot of width inside the trunk.

You're right about the interior not being subjective.. I misunderstood myself

The back seats are useless on both cars IMO. although like I said I am a smaller guy and fit ok in either of them. There isn't as much difference as you'd think but the 6th gen is smaller.

Again, the backseat and trunk are irrelevant to me and most people that buy a camaro or any 2 door coupe for that matter. The more practical version of the camaro would be the Chevy SS and the less practical version would be the Vette. I think the camaro fits perfectly in between where it should be.


The 6th gens have the battery located in the trunk in the space between the 1/4 panel and carpet on the passenger side. Weird location if you ask me!