LFX vs LLT - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

Sandman1969 · 08-01-2015, 12:45 PM

My sister is looking to pickup a Camaro V6 to replace her daily driver. She is ideally looking for a new one, but is also looking at used as well to help meet her budget requirements.

I recommended 2012 and newer, one reason to be further into the model production to get away from possible first year issues and to get the LFX.

However, is that a good thing for her to do specifically for the engine model. Is there anything the LFX has over the LLT, besides a little HP? Is one more durable/reliable than the other?

Also, anything else I should recommend to help with her search in the used market? She is thinking about a Vert, but I think a Coupe would be better for a year round DD. I told her to try to find a 2LT / RS to get the backup camera / sensors. Can that be found on the LSes or 1LT as well?

She is also looking at the Mustang, Accord and FRS. However, she likes the looks of the Camaro better than all of them by far. I also mentioned a Charger to her as well for the convenience of 4 doors or even the Challenger. However, we are more of a Chevrolet family. She used to drag her Father-In-Laws Monte Carlo a few years ago.

AITI · 08-01-2015, 02:23 PM

Better timing chain design, more capable HPDI furl pump and injectors, has a MAP sensor where the LLT did not so easier to tune and will run if MAF fails where LLT leaves you stuck, and if she gets a 2014 or newer the PCV drill mod is not needed as GM adopted the design the RX guy's had shared with all, and the 2014 and up have a low oil level indicator so if your/she is not one to check oil every 1000 miles or so that may save her from a blown engine.

I would shy from a LLT for those reasons.

Sandman1969 · 08-01-2015, 05:32 PM

Great thanks. Real good information there. I didn't realize there were that many differences

She is actually doing the paperwork now for a new White 1LS at this very moment!

So glad. Earlier, she told me she decided to get a Scion tC. Bout broke my heart. Haha.
Then she said she was going to go test drive the Camaro to at least say she looked at it.
Now she wrapping up the process getting the new one!

I asked her what about the tC. She said is SO happy she didn't pull the trigger on the tC. They aren't in the same league.

I test drove a tC years ago when I got my commuting civic and didn't like them at all. Seemed like a poorly put together car. I then moved to an Accord, and now that my commute is a fraction of what it was I upgraded to my love

AITI · 08-04-2015, 11:30 AM

I paid $23800 for mine new.

arkentect · 08-04-2015, 11:51 AM

Buy an LFX. the only disadvantage it has is the lack of exhaust headers. But seriously from someone who went through the LLT complete motor failure, buy an LFX

Venomous · 08-04-2015, 11:58 AM

Also, the 1LT has the backup camera and sensor.

Colton5 · 08-11-2015, 08:49 PM

I have a 2015 1LT and I don't have a camera..

2LS14 · 08-12-2015, 10:24 AM

LFX, but sometimes the key gets stuck in the key fob if I don't put the shifter in park hard enough.

Foxfire15 · 08-13-2015, 06:38 PM

[QUOTE=Sanjay Collins;8568233]Mine doesn't. I'd like the backup camera but no thank you on the sensors, they make the bumper look hideous.[/QUOTE]

Camera and sensors are standard on the 2LT/2SS. I think they're an option on the 1LT/1SS

PDXSSCE · 07-01-2018, 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AITI

Better timing chain design, more capable HPDI furl pump and injectors, has a MAP sensor where the LLT did not so easier to tune and will run if MAF fails where LLT leaves you stuck, and if she gets a 2014 or newer the PCV drill mod is not needed as GM adopted the design the RX guy's had shared with all, and the 2014 and up have a low oil level indicator so if your/she is not one to check oil every 1000 miles or so that may save her from a blown engine.

I would shy from a LLT for those reasons.

It's an older thread but the information is important: The LFX was introduced in the 2012 Camaro. Was there an error in the year stated that the upgraded PCV valve & low oil level indicator were added or did 2013 year LFX models not include them?
I've seen varying reports.

Coleroad · 07-01-2018, 06:47 PM

I have a thirteen and it has the updated pcv valve.i understand that the updated valve started sometime during the thirteen build run. Even if you don't, no big deal. The drill mod is simple to complete.

PDXSSCE · 07-01-2018, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coleroad

I have a thirteen and it has the updated pcv valve.i understand that the updated valve started sometime during the thirteen build run. Even if you don't, no big deal. The drill mod is simple to complete.

Does yours have the low oil level indicator?

xstuntman · 07-01-2018, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PDXSSCE

It's an older thread but the information is important: The LFX was introduced in the 2013 Camaro. Was there an error in the year stated that the upgraded PCV valve & low oil level indicator were added or did first year LFX models not include them?
I've seen varying reports.

Can't help with the PCV but the LFX debuted in 2012.
Planning on doing the PCV mod this week myself.

PDXSSCE · 07-01-2018, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xstuntman

Can't help with the PCV but the LFX debuted in 2012.
Planning on doing the PCV mod this week myself.

Yeah, that's right. I'm getting mixed up from all the information I'm reading.

08-01-2015, 12:45 PM	#1
Sandman1969 Drives: 2015 2SS Red Hot Adrenaline Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Virginia Posts: 456 View My Garage	LFX vs LLT My sister is looking to pickup a Camaro V6 to replace her daily driver. She is ideally looking for a new one, but is also looking at used as well to help meet her budget requirements. I recommended 2012 and newer, one reason to be further into the model production to get away from possible first year issues and to get the LFX. However, is that a good thing for her to do specifically for the engine model. Is there anything the LFX has over the LLT, besides a little HP? Is one more durable/reliable than the other? Also, anything else I should recommend to help with her search in the used market? She is thinking about a Vert, but I think a Coupe would be better for a year round DD. I told her to try to find a 2LT / RS to get the backup camera / sensors. Can that be found on the LSes or 1LT as well? She is also looking at the Mustang, Accord and FRS. However, she likes the looks of the Camaro better than all of them by far. I also mentioned a Charger to her as well for the convenience of 4 doors or even the Challenger. However, we are more of a Chevrolet family. She used to drag her Father-In-Laws Monte Carlo a few years ago. __________________ 2015 2SS Red Hot Adrenaline

08-01-2015, 05:32 PM	#3
Sandman1969 Drives: 2015 2SS Red Hot Adrenaline Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Virginia Posts: 456 View My Garage	Great thanks. Real good information there. I didn't realize there were that many differences She is actually doing the paperwork now for a new White 1LS at this very moment! So glad. Earlier, she told me she decided to get a Scion tC. Bout broke my heart. Haha. Then she said she was going to go test drive the Camaro to at least say she looked at it. Now she wrapping up the process getting the new one! I asked her what about the tC. She said is SO happy she didn't pull the trigger on the tC. They aren't in the same league. I test drove a tC years ago when I got my commuting civic and didn't like them at all. Seemed like a poorly put together car. I then moved to an Accord, and now that my commute is a fraction of what it was I upgraded to my love __________________ 2015 2SS Red Hot Adrenaline

08-04-2015, 11:51 AM	#5
arkentect Drives: 2010 Camaro SGM 1LT M6 Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 1,630	Buy an LFX. the only disadvantage it has is the lack of exhaust headers. But seriously from someone who went through the LLT complete motor failure, buy an LFX __________________ Arkentect's Build Thread!! - UPSTATE C5 MEMBER 2010 SGM M6 1LT - SOLD Current - 2009 C6 Corvette Z51

08-04-2015, 11:58 AM	#6
Venomous Drives: 2015 Silver Camaro 1lt RS M6 Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: DFW Posts: 286	Also, the 1LT has the backup camera and sensor. __________________ Cold air induction cai, ported throttle body, Vitesse Throttle Control, Oracle Ghosted LED side markers

08-01-2015, 02:23 PM	#2
AITI Account Suspended Drives: 2015 LFX Auto Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: US of A Posts: 280	Better timing chain design, more capable HPDI furl pump and injectors, has a MAP sensor where the LLT did not so easier to tune and will run if MAF fails where LLT leaves you stuck, and if she gets a 2014 or newer the PCV drill mod is not needed as GM adopted the design the RX guy's had shared with all, and the 2014 and up have a low oil level indicator so if your/she is not one to check oil every 1000 miles or so that may save her from a blown engine. I would shy from a LLT for those reasons.

08-04-2015, 11:30 AM	#4
AITI Account Suspended Drives: 2015 LFX Auto Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: US of A Posts: 280	I paid $23800 for mine new.

08-11-2015, 08:49 PM	#7
Colton5 Drives: 2015 Manual V6 1LT RS AGM Camaro Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Kansas Posts: 74	I have a 2015 1LT and I don't have a camera..

08-12-2015, 10:24 AM	#8
2LS14 Drives: 2014 2LS Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: ATL Posts: 134	LFX, but sometimes the key gets stuck in the key fob if I don't put the shifter in park hard enough.

08-13-2015, 06:38 PM	#9
Foxfire15 Drives: 2015 2LT/RS BVM Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: AZ Posts: 244	[QUOTE=Sanjay Collins;8568233]Mine doesn't. I'd like the backup camera but no thank you on the sensors, they make the bumper look hideous.[/QUOTE] Camera and sensors are standard on the 2LT/2SS. I think they're an option on the 1LT/1SS

07-01-2018, 06:47 PM	#11
Coleroad Drives: 13 Camaro Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Colorado Posts: 315	I have a thirteen and it has the updated pcv valve.i understand that the updated valve started sometime during the thirteen build run. Even if you don't, no big deal. The drill mod is simple to complete.