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Glassman66 · 10-29-2018, 05:46 PM

I'm in the market to buy a dream car

I'm stuck between a 2014-15 Camaro 1le and the 2015-16 scat pack.

One day I think I got it all figured out and then I find myself looking at the other car.

I've had a C4 Corvette and it was a blast, but I didn't drive it a ton. I miss my 72 Chevelle and that's why I like the Scat.

I've been going through this for 2 years and now I can pull the trigger. I feel mentally unstable trying to figure out.

I'm driving my wife crazy.

dpeterson7 · 10-29-2018, 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glassman66

I'm in the market to buy a dream car

I'm stuck between a 2014-15 Camaro 1le and the 2015-16 scat pack.

One day I think I got it all figured out and then I find myself looking at the other car.

I've had a C4 Corvette and it was a blast, but I didn't drive it a ton. I miss my 72 Chevelle and that's why I like the Scat.

I've been going through this for 2 years and now I can pull the trigger. I feel mentally unstable trying to figure out.

I'm driving my wife crazy.

If you're looking for a fantastic handling car with good power and TONS of possibilities for upgrades, go with the 1LE. I have to say though that the scat pack may be a bit faster. My buddy has a '15 SS auto and raced a '17 scat pack and got beat by about half a car length. The 1LE being a manual may overcome that. So no bias i would personally pick the camaro just because of the endless mods for LS engines (plus they look better IMO).

SSEssence · 10-29-2018, 06:19 PM

The 1LE will outhandle that scatpack anyday, hands down

qcman · 10-29-2018, 06:27 PM

Over on the Challenger forum they are saying you can't see out of a Camaro LOL. Tough choice OP both very nice cars. I might have a Chally if it weren't so big and my garage so small. I can just get my SS inside of it but I'm sure the Dodge would be a no go there.

To me it comes down to what the OP likes. Test drive them both and see if you like one better than the other. I like both honestly....

SecondZ28 · 10-29-2018, 06:45 PM

Do you have any kids? How are you going to use the car? ...cruise/car shows? Drag strip? HPDE events?

They are very different cars.

I'd take a Scat Pak over a SS 1LE (but a ZL1 over a Scat Pak)

TheFlyingBananaSS · 10-29-2018, 07:23 PM

You know you are going to mod the car. You also know there are far more options available for the camaro.
See? That wasn't hard.

Buschman · 10-29-2018, 07:23 PM

I own a 15 1LE and just got rid of my 17 SRT Challenger for a 18 Grand Sport Vette. Outstanding car. The fit and finish Dodge puts into their cars is far better than Chevy. If you’re looking for a comfortable family size muscle car you can’t beat the Challenger. Great power in a straight line, outstanding exhaust from the factory and timeless looks. But they are heavy cars, and they corner that way. If you don’t plan on tracking them get either and be happy.

The 1LE will destroy the scat pack on any auto-x or road course.

Spec · 10-29-2018, 07:37 PM

Challenger good for the straight line, the 1LE for carving through them hills...

For me it would be the 1LE... the potential to upgrade and make it fast and faster is always there, on both cars really... but only one will come with much better handling than the other straight out the box. Plug and play baby...

I must add, that after owning an SS with the Hotchkis Race Pack (among a few other suspension upgrades), I am a bit biased to what these cars can do and how they feel on the road. That LS3 is easily modified for great gains, and the suspension on these cars as well.

Glassman66 · 10-29-2018, 09:27 PM

I'm 52, 2 grandsons. Not sure if I'll get to track the car a ton, but obviously the 1le leads the road course and the scat pack the 1/4 mile.

The creature comforts of the Dodge are nice too.

It's gonna be a tough decision.

CamaroDreams76 · 10-29-2018, 10:08 PM

Honestly it's a very tough decision. 1LE is more of an all around performance car. It handles very well and its respectable in a straight line. Scatpack is more of a one trick car..... straight. It CAN turn but you will feel how heavy the car is and will feel it wants to understeer.

1LEs are manual only if the transmission is a deciding factor.

Glassman66 · 10-29-2018, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CamaroDreams76

Honestly it's a very tough decision. 1LE is more of an all around performance car. It handles very well and its respectable in a straight line. Scatpack is more of a one trick car..... straight. It CAN turn but you will feel how heavy the car is and will feel it wants to understeer.

1LEs are manual only if the transmission is a deciding factor.

Beautiful pic of your car. You made it tougher.

rontammy0 · 10-29-2018, 10:41 PM

A buddy of mine just bought a 2016 Challenger Scat pack Shaker in all black. That car is awesome and looks great as well. Go test drive both.

CHRISCAM · 10-29-2018, 10:43 PM

Glassman, I was half-way in the 2015-2017 Scat Pack M6 camp myself due to interior space (I'm 6'2", over 250). The couple of 5th gen. Camaros I've sat in have been less than roomy, in all honesty.

I do really like the 2015+ Challenger styling. I think Dodge did a great job with the refresh they did with the headlights & LED taillights. I too have had a number of old school muscle cars over the years (almost all GM-- '69 Camaro 350/350 auto, '70 Chevelle 396 M21 SS clone, '69 442, '66 GTO, among many others)-- so I'm drawn to the retro styling of both the Challenger and the 5th Gen. Camaro.

However, one specific aspect of the Camaro and the SS cars in particular that keeps bringing me back firmly into the Camaro camp is the overall reliability and potential for trouble-free miles. If you do some research on sites like U.S. News, Consumer Reports, and other "No-nonsense" type sites, the Challenger (and many Chrysler models in general) seem to repeatedly score low on the predicted and actual reliability scale as compared to GM products like the Camaro.

Of course, no car is immune to user neglect, but it seems that with all maintenance schedules being similarly followed, Camaro just emerges as the more likely to last longer with fewer problems.

That's my take, coming from a similar background, car-wise. Hope you can make an honest and sober decision on the car as I hope I'll be able to do soon.

Cheers,
Chris

OHIOSS · 10-29-2018, 11:25 PM

Gee let me guess which car everyone on a Camaro forum is going to recommend....

10-29-2018, 05:46 PM	#1
Glassman66 Drives: 2014 Camaro 2SS/RS 1le Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Denver Co Posts: 260	Flip flopping back and forth. Challenger ScatPack or 1le I'm in the market to buy a dream car I'm stuck between a 2014-15 Camaro 1le and the 2015-16 scat pack. One day I think I got it all figured out and then I find myself looking at the other car. I've had a C4 Corvette and it was a blast, but I didn't drive it a ton. I miss my 72 Chevelle and that's why I like the Scat. I've been going through this for 2 years and now I can pull the trigger. I feel mentally unstable trying to figure out. I'm driving my wife crazy.

10-29-2018, 06:45 PM	#5
SecondZ28 Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Illinois Posts: 807	Do you have any kids? How are you going to use the car? ...cruise/car shows? Drag strip? HPDE events? They are very different cars. I'd take a Scat Pak over a SS 1LE (but a ZL1 over a Scat Pak) __________________ '13 ZL1 '06 TBSS '98 TJ '87 GN

10-29-2018, 07:23 PM	#6
TheFlyingBananaSS Evil Genius of Chevrolet Drives: 2017 Z06, 2019 XTS, 2013 SS Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: New York Posts: 3,262	You know you are going to mod the car. You also know there are far more options available for the camaro. See? That wasn't hard. __________________ GPI SS2 VVT cam, ECS Novi 1500 supercharger, Corsa Extreme, Detroit Speed and BMR suspension, Circle D triple disc, Melling oil pump, LS2 chain tensioner, ATI 10% UD, DSX E85 kit, High Energy coils, BTR springs, LS2 Lifter trays, Titanium retainers, hardened push rods, FIC 1000 injectors, ZL1 pump, Mighty Mouse catch can, AEM gauges, Tial BOV, Richmond 3.91 gears, Custom gauge bezels, Speed Engineering headers, Stainless Works HF cats, DSX Aux pump, 710rwhp on E85.

10-29-2018, 07:23 PM	#7
Buschman Drives: 2018 ZL1 2015 1SS 1LE Join Date: May 2013 Location: North Eastern Michigan Posts: 772	I own a 15 1LE and just got rid of my 17 SRT Challenger for a 18 Grand Sport Vette. Outstanding car. The fit and finish Dodge puts into their cars is far better than Chevy. If you’re looking for a comfortable family size muscle car you can’t beat the Challenger. Great power in a straight line, outstanding exhaust from the factory and timeless looks. But they are heavy cars, and they corner that way. If you don’t plan on tracking them get either and be happy. The 1LE will destroy the scat pack on any auto-x or road course. __________________ 2018 ZL1 2015 1SS 1LE Stock...ish

10-29-2018, 10:08 PM	#10
CamaroDreams76 Tri-County Camaro SWFL Drives: 2013 IOM 2SS/RS/1LE Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: South West FL Posts: 3,581 View My Garage	Honestly it's a very tough decision. 1LE is more of an all around performance car. It handles very well and its respectable in a straight line. Scatpack is more of a one trick car..... straight. It CAN turn but you will feel how heavy the car is and will feel it wants to understeer. 1LEs are manual only if the transmission is a deciding factor. __________________ Just bolt ons........ https://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=343023

10-29-2018, 06:19 PM	#3
SSEssence Instagram: Sangstah Drives: 2019 Camaro 1LE Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Buena Park, CA. Posts: 2,836 View My Garage	The 1LE will outhandle that scatpack anyday, hands down

10-29-2018, 06:27 PM	#4
qcman Drives: 2013 Camaro 2SS RDP Tuned L99 Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Ottawa, Canada eh? Posts: 1,889	Over on the Challenger forum they are saying you can't see out of a Camaro LOL. Tough choice OP both very nice cars. I might have a Chally if it weren't so big and my garage so small. I can just get my SS inside of it but I'm sure the Dodge would be a no go there. To me it comes down to what the OP likes. Test drive them both and see if you like one better than the other. I like both honestly....

10-29-2018, 07:37 PM	#8
Spec Account Suspended Drives: 2010 Camaro 1SS LS3 Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Riverside, CA Posts: 4,018	Challenger good for the straight line, the 1LE for carving through them hills... For me it would be the 1LE... the potential to upgrade and make it fast and faster is always there, on both cars really... but only one will come with much better handling than the other straight out the box. Plug and play baby... I must add, that after owning an SS with the Hotchkis Race Pack (among a few other suspension upgrades), I am a bit biased to what these cars can do and how they feel on the road. That LS3 is easily modified for great gains, and the suspension on these cars as well.

10-29-2018, 09:27 PM	#9
Glassman66 Drives: 2014 Camaro 2SS/RS 1le Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Denver Co Posts: 260	I'm 52, 2 grandsons. Not sure if I'll get to track the car a ton, but obviously the 1le leads the road course and the scat pack the 1/4 mile. The creature comforts of the Dodge are nice too. It's gonna be a tough decision.

10-29-2018, 10:41 PM	#12
rontammy0 Account Suspended Drives: 2011 2SS/ RS INFERNO ORANGE L99 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Alliston Ontario Canada Posts: 9,057 View My Garage	A buddy of mine just bought a 2016 Challenger Scat pack Shaker in all black. That car is awesome and looks great as well. Go test drive both.

10-29-2018, 10:43 PM	#13
CHRISCAM Drives: 2013 Summit White 2SS/1LE Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: SoCal Posts: 118	Glassman, I was half-way in the 2015-2017 Scat Pack M6 camp myself due to interior space (I'm 6'2", over 250). The couple of 5th gen. Camaros I've sat in have been less than roomy, in all honesty. I do really like the 2015+ Challenger styling. I think Dodge did a great job with the refresh they did with the headlights & LED taillights. I too have had a number of old school muscle cars over the years (almost all GM-- '69 Camaro 350/350 auto, '70 Chevelle 396 M21 SS clone, '69 442, '66 GTO, among many others)-- so I'm drawn to the retro styling of both the Challenger and the 5th Gen. Camaro. However, one specific aspect of the Camaro and the SS cars in particular that keeps bringing me back firmly into the Camaro camp is the overall reliability and potential for trouble-free miles. If you do some research on sites like U.S. News, Consumer Reports, and other "No-nonsense" type sites, the Challenger (and many Chrysler models in general) seem to repeatedly score low on the predicted and actual reliability scale as compared to GM products like the Camaro. Of course, no car is immune to user neglect, but it seems that with all maintenance schedules being similarly followed, Camaro just emerges as the more likely to last longer with fewer problems. That's my take, coming from a similar background, car-wise. Hope you can make an honest and sober decision on the car as I hope I'll be able to do soon. Cheers, Chris

10-29-2018, 11:25 PM	#14
OHIOSS Russ Drives: Yukon Denali, Charger, CamaroSS Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,811	Gee let me guess which car everyone on a Camaro forum is going to recommend....