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NastyNate'sZ28 · 10-10-2019, 09:35 AM

Hey guys my z/28 has around 3900 miles now and since I got it around 2400 miles I have been having a small issue of getting it into 1st & 2nd gear the first couple times I start to drive it after it has sat and cooled down. I'll get in and warm the engine and then a lot of times I'll shift it into like 3rd or 4th gear a couple times before trying to get 1st. It is almost like the clutch isn't fully disengaging or the syncro isn't messing just right like its tight when cold. Anyone else had this issue?

G8One2 · 10-10-2019, 09:53 AM

You sure it's not the skip shift feature? That gets me occasionally, but it could be that you need to ad a little fluid to the trans. If it's a new vehicle though, you shouldn't have to do that. I do notice my M6 SS does the same thing when cold, I just go easy on her till she gets up to temp. But the issue is not exagerated much as you see to be saying yours does. I never really have to cram her into gear, just drive her easily till she's warmed up.

Mark_Z28 · 10-10-2019, 10:50 AM

68000 miles and no have not seen this. FYI, I usually cold start it and put it into reverse to get out of the garage and then into first but and even under 40F it still has no issue getting into gear. On some cold days I notice the movement of the shifter isn't as slick but I've never had an issue going into gear.

Do you have a stock clutch?

NastyNate'sZ28 · 10-10-2019, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by G8One2

You sure it's not the skip shift feature? That gets me occasionally, but it could be that you need to ad a little fluid to the trans. If it's a new vehicle though, you shouldn't have to do that. I do notice my M6 SS does the same thing when cold, I just go easy on her till she gets up to temp. But the issue is not exagerated much as you see to be saying yours does. I never really have to cram her into gear, just drive her easily till she's warmed up.

Not the Skip shift I'm well aware of skip shift that was shut off using HPtuners day one!! LOL

Fluid level is up I checked that when I did my Heads, cam, and header install as I too wondered about the level

Thanks

NastyNate'sZ28 · 10-10-2019, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark_Z28

68000 miles and no have not seen this. FYI, I usually cold start it and put it into reverse to get out of the garage and then into first but and even under 40F it still has no issue getting into gear. On some cold days I notice the movement of the shifter isn't as slick but I've never had an issue going into gear.

Do you have a stock clutch?

Yeah all stock trans, shifter , and clutch at this time

608RS · 10-10-2019, 11:04 AM

one of the many quirks about the TR6060 transmission. i would recommend by swapping your trans fluid with AMSOIL. that's a good start

NastyNate'sZ28 · 10-10-2019, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by 608RS

one of the many quirks about the TR6060 transmission. i would recommend by swapping your trans fluid with AMSOIL. that's a good start

I've kicked around the idea of switching fluids to another brand but just wasn't ready to blame it all on a fluid just odd it gets better when warm. I guess the fluid could thin out and work better once warm but my thought was why 1st and 2nd gear only. I've tried clutching in a couple times to see if it was like the clutch was sticking and parts were still moving but that also doesn't make since why it would also only be 1st and 2nd gear

pzero · 10-10-2019, 02:20 PM

Change the the trans fluid to red line or other high performance name brand. That's the cheapest way to go first. If that doesn't work look into master clutch cylinder. If that doesn't work look into the main clutch itself. After I changed my fluid to red line, it's smooth as butter.

Check with your dealer if they can cover the last two.

G8One2 · 10-10-2019, 03:29 PM

I agree, i plan on putting amsoil or redline in mine when i get around to it.

NastyNate'sZ28 · 10-10-2019, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pzero

Change the the trans fluid to red line or other high performance name brand. That's the cheapest way to go first. If that doesn't work look into master clutch cylinder. If that doesn't work look into the main clutch itself. After I changed my fluid to red line, it's smooth as butter.

Check with your dealer if they can cover the last two.

Red Line D4 ATF?

I bleed out the Master cylinder fluid it is fresh no change there.

69L48Z27 · 10-10-2019, 04:27 PM

Mine is like that when its ice cold, sitting overnight. First is tough to engage when moving. No real issue with 2nd however. Its all better after the first mile or two.

MIKZ28 · 10-10-2019, 08:14 PM

Mine has a problem popping out of second on occasion. Usually I notice it when I am going around a slow corner. I downshift into second and sometimes it pops back into neutral. I used to think it was me not pulling the shifter all the way into gear but it has happened so often I'm not sure now. After it pops out if I try to put it back into second it just grinds. I must put in into 3rd to keep going. I have pissed off some drivers behind me on occasion when this happens. Other times it works just fine and I don't have the problem. I'm not sure if I should take it to the dealer or not. I hate taking my car to dealers you never know if you can trust them.

lemontwist · 10-10-2019, 11:27 PM

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NastyNate'sZ28 · 10-11-2019, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by 69L48Z27

Mine is like that when its ice cold, sitting overnight. First is tough to engage when moving. No real issue with 2nd however. Its all better after the first mile or two.

Basically the same concern it sounds like. 2nd gear isn't as bad or as often in mine.

10-10-2019, 09:35 AM	#1
NastyNate'sZ28 Drives: Chevy Camaro Z28 Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Fort Wayne, Indiana Posts: 40	Issues getting it into 1st & 2nd gear when cold Hey guys my z/28 has around 3900 miles now and since I got it around 2400 miles I have been having a small issue of getting it into 1st & 2nd gear the first couple times I start to drive it after it has sat and cooled down. I'll get in and warm the engine and then a lot of times I'll shift it into like 3rd or 4th gear a couple times before trying to get 1st. It is almost like the clutch isn't fully disengaging or the syncro isn't messing just right like its tight when cold. Anyone else had this issue?

10-10-2019, 09:53 AM	#2
G8One2 Drives: 2014 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Metro Detroit Posts: 492	You sure it's not the skip shift feature? That gets me occasionally, but it could be that you need to ad a little fluid to the trans. If it's a new vehicle though, you shouldn't have to do that. I do notice my M6 SS does the same thing when cold, I just go easy on her till she gets up to temp. But the issue is not exagerated much as you see to be saying yours does. I never really have to cram her into gear, just drive her easily till she's warmed up.

10-10-2019, 10:50 AM	#3
Mark_Z28 Drives: Black 2015 Z28 #457 Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 214	68000 miles and no have not seen this. FYI, I usually cold start it and put it into reverse to get out of the garage and then into first but and even under 40F it still has no issue getting into gear. On some cold days I notice the movement of the shifter isn't as slick but I've never had an issue going into gear. Do you have a stock clutch?

10-10-2019, 11:04 AM	#6
608RS Drives: 2015 2ss Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: . Posts: 645	one of the many quirks about the TR6060 transmission. i would recommend by swapping your trans fluid with AMSOIL. that's a good start

10-10-2019, 02:20 PM	#8
pzero Drives: 2015 Camaro Z/28 #968 Silver Ice M Join Date: May 2019 Location: Houston Posts: 366	Change the the trans fluid to red line or other high performance name brand. That's the cheapest way to go first. If that doesn't work look into master clutch cylinder. If that doesn't work look into the main clutch itself. After I changed my fluid to red line, it's smooth as butter. Check with your dealer if they can cover the last two.

10-10-2019, 03:29 PM	#9
G8One2 Drives: 2014 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Metro Detroit Posts: 492	I agree, i plan on putting amsoil or redline in mine when i get around to it.

10-10-2019, 04:27 PM	#11
69L48Z27 Drives: 2015 Z/28; 1969 Camaro SS Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: York, PA Posts: 814	Mine is like that when its ice cold, sitting overnight. First is tough to engage when moving. No real issue with 2nd however. Its all better after the first mile or two.

10-10-2019, 08:14 PM	#12
MIKZ28 Drives: 2019 Camaro ZL1 2004 Pontiac GTO Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Roscoe, IL Posts: 136	Mine has a problem popping out of second on occasion. Usually I notice it when I am going around a slow corner. I downshift into second and sometimes it pops back into neutral. I used to think it was me not pulling the shifter all the way into gear but it has happened so often I'm not sure now. After it pops out if I try to put it back into second it just grinds. I must put in into 3rd to keep going. I have pissed off some drivers behind me on occasion when this happens. Other times it works just fine and I don't have the problem. I'm not sure if I should take it to the dealer or not. I hate taking my car to dealers you never know if you can trust them.

10-10-2019, 11:27 PM	#13
lemontwist Drives: 12 2SS/RS L99,11 2SS/RS LS3totaled Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: mooresville nc Posts: 1,048	redline amazon prime free shipping 47.90 shipped https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1