Shouldn't 2nd gear chirp? - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

Hairy Ballzonya · 03-18-2020, 06:27 PM

I have a 2014 Camaro 1LS. So obviously it's a manual v6. I've only had it for a little while and I had the 2nd gear synchro replaced by the dealership. The dealership said the clutch needed to be replaced. I don't feel any slippage or hear any chatter or anything so I told them not to worry about it for now. But I guess my question is- "When aggressively shifting into second gear, shouldn't I be able to break the tires loose if I wanted to? I obviously take the traction control completely off. But when I shift into second, I can't even get the tires to 'chirp!' Shouldn't they at least spin a little bit if i want them to?" I used to have a manual Chevy s10 with a 4 banger that would even make a little chirp, so why not a 323hpwr camaro? I even have a CAI and Flowmasters to add even more horse power. So what gives? Any thoughts besides the smartasses who are gonna say "should have got a v8"?

Greenhornet2 · 03-18-2020, 06:42 PM

I don't know that i can give you a serious answer with that screen name. Your clutch is probably slipping a little so you aren't getting a harsh engagement which would cause the chirp. I don't know if the v6s spin 2nd gear, maybe if you short shift 1st and get the rpms up remote dumping the clutch in 2nd. My SS barely chirped 2nd when it was stock and i was actually trying to go it would just squat and hook. Independent rear suspension works differently than solid rear axles.

Coleroad · 03-18-2020, 06:49 PM

My 1LT 2013 auto will spin tires going into 2nd, and no it's not forced induction.

1JEWLDSSRS · 03-18-2020, 06:56 PM

And also a CAI and exhaust will not net you much, if any more HP, maybe 3-5 at the most..

CamaroBarb · 03-18-2020, 06:59 PM

My v6 chirps second pretty good but its auto. When it did it I was in heavy traffic on a 4 lane pulling away from a light. Everyone drives like a nut so I was trying to get out ahead. It turned the tires in 1st pretty good then chirped second very nice. I was in heaven thinking I OWN THIS HIGHWAY you can not take me on. LOL Pickup truck flew by me Laughing.

These cars to really hook the road so if you have good tires it may be tough to spin them. My rear tires are worn down and need to be replaced, I think thats why they turn easily now.

Greenhornet2 · 03-18-2020, 07:03 PM

Can't really compare the autos to a stick car, the suspension stays loaded so just having a firm shift will chirp tires. In a stick you are unloading the suspension them when you hit it again the suspension absorbs most of the shock before it gets to the ground on a irs. Lowering or stiffer springs gets rid of a lot of this slop/delay. This is why just doing lowering springs can actually quicken your 0-60 times by a tenth or two.

ariZona28 · 03-18-2020, 08:04 PM

Plenty of variables involved here. You're dealing with an engine that makes good HP but not a lot of torque. Combine that with good tires and Posi (pretty sure you have that) and you're asking for a lot. Your old pick-up also had no weight in the back and probably no Posi. Also a note of caution, those small transmissions are not the stoutest around. Be careful or you could be riding shotgun in a flatbed back to your garage.

Bigdumogre · 03-18-2020, 08:21 PM

I have a auto 2SS with mods in my sig which is not much compared to others and in sport mode I chirp second and third. On Sunday hitting third with a full wot launch kicked out my rear

InFiD3ViL · 03-18-2020, 08:36 PM

Tires are a huge factor. Some compounds just don't make that lovely noise and grip grip grip.

I have had tires I could spin all day but wouldn't make a peep. Others would scream just turning into the parking spot.

03-18-2020, 06:27 PM	#1
Hairy Ballzonya Drives: Chevy Camaro Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: Cleveland Posts: 1	Shouldn't 2nd gear chirp? I have a 2014 Camaro 1LS. So obviously it's a manual v6. I've only had it for a little while and I had the 2nd gear synchro replaced by the dealership. The dealership said the clutch needed to be replaced. I don't feel any slippage or hear any chatter or anything so I told them not to worry about it for now. But I guess my question is- "When aggressively shifting into second gear, shouldn't I be able to break the tires loose if I wanted to? I obviously take the traction control completely off. But when I shift into second, I can't even get the tires to 'chirp!' Shouldn't they at least spin a little bit if i want them to?" I used to have a manual Chevy s10 with a 4 banger that would even make a little chirp, so why not a 323hpwr camaro? I even have a CAI and Flowmasters to add even more horse power. So what gives? Any thoughts besides the smartasses who are gonna say "should have got a v8"?

03-18-2020, 06:42 PM	#2
Greenhornet2 Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS LS3 Whipple Join Date: May 2019 Location: Connecticut Posts: 1,925	I don't know that i can give you a serious answer with that screen name. Your clutch is probably slipping a little so you aren't getting a harsh engagement which would cause the chirp. I don't know if the v6s spin 2nd gear, maybe if you short shift 1st and get the rpms up remote dumping the clutch in 2nd. My SS barely chirped 2nd when it was stock and i was actually trying to go it would just squat and hook. Independent rear suspension works differently than solid rear axles. __________________ Whipple 2.9 CAI ID1050x injectors ZL1 Pump JRE FPCM JMS Voltage booster JRE Rough Idle blower cam BTR .660 springs CHE trunnion kit 1 7/8 Speed Engineering Borla Atak JRE scoop 1.5" lowering springs BMR trailing arms and toe links Cradle inserts 704WHP 603WTQ 93 octane

03-18-2020, 06:56 PM	#4
1JEWLDSSRS Drives: 2011 SS-RS Join Date: May 2011 Location: FLORIDA Posts: 14,150	And also a CAI and exhaust will not net you much, if any more HP, maybe 3-5 at the most.. __________________ TSP STAGE 3 CAM,231/246 @112 LSA 614/641 LIFT, CIRCLE D 5C-4200-4500 CONVERTER,LOD INTAKE.CORSA EXHAUST. DSS 1 PC DS. PEGASUS SOLID CRADLE MOUNTS. 486RWHP/475RWTQ.LOTS MORE.

03-18-2020, 07:03 PM	#6
Greenhornet2 Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS LS3 Whipple Join Date: May 2019 Location: Connecticut Posts: 1,925	Can't really compare the autos to a stick car, the suspension stays loaded so just having a firm shift will chirp tires. In a stick you are unloading the suspension them when you hit it again the suspension absorbs most of the shock before it gets to the ground on a irs. Lowering or stiffer springs gets rid of a lot of this slop/delay. This is why just doing lowering springs can actually quicken your 0-60 times by a tenth or two. __________________ Whipple 2.9 CAI ID1050x injectors ZL1 Pump JRE FPCM JMS Voltage booster JRE Rough Idle blower cam BTR .660 springs CHE trunnion kit 1 7/8 Speed Engineering Borla Atak JRE scoop 1.5" lowering springs BMR trailing arms and toe links Cradle inserts 704WHP 603WTQ 93 octane

03-18-2020, 08:04 PM	#7
ariZona28 Give speed a chance Drives: 2015 Camaro 2LS, 2015 Camaro Z/28 Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: Mesa, Az Posts: 2,812	Plenty of variables involved here. You're dealing with an engine that makes good HP but not a lot of torque. Combine that with good tires and Posi (pretty sure you have that) and you're asking for a lot. Your old pick-up also had no weight in the back and probably no Posi. Also a note of caution, those small transmissions are not the stoutest around. Be careful or you could be riding shotgun in a flatbed back to your garage. Attached Images Last edited by ariZona28; 03-19-2020 at 01:29 AM.

03-18-2020, 06:49 PM	#3
Coleroad Drives: 13 Camaro Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Colorado Posts: 315	My 1LT 2013 auto will spin tires going into 2nd, and no it's not forced induction.

03-18-2020, 06:59 PM	#5
CamaroBarb Banned Drives: cheby Camaro Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: usa Posts: 575	My v6 chirps second pretty good but its auto. When it did it I was in heavy traffic on a 4 lane pulling away from a light. Everyone drives like a nut so I was trying to get out ahead. It turned the tires in 1st pretty good then chirped second very nice. I was in heaven thinking I OWN THIS HIGHWAY you can not take me on. LOL Pickup truck flew by me Laughing. These cars to really hook the road so if you have good tires it may be tough to spin them. My rear tires are worn down and need to be replaced, I think thats why they turn easily now.

03-18-2020, 08:21 PM	#8
Bigdumogre Drives: 2012 Camaro SS Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: New York Posts: 1,452	I have a auto 2SS with mods in my sig which is not much compared to others and in sport mode I chirp second and third. On Sunday hitting third with a full wot launch kicked out my rear __________________ 2012 Camaro 2SS/RS - CSP Custom Cam 232/240 .615/.615 113 +3, Texas speed CNC heads, FTI billet triple disc converter, K&N cai, Katech ported TB, GPI Ported/rod modded manifold, Texas speed 1 7/8 headers, HFC, Flowmaster 2 chambers with x pipe, Mishimoto CC, MSD wires, Roto fab washer relocation, tru cool 40k trans cooler, apex scoop, Pedders extreme coil overs and much more!!

03-18-2020, 08:36 PM	#9
InFiD3ViL Drives: 2010 CGM 2SS/RS LS3 Swapped A6 Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Spring Hill, FL Posts: 4,737	Tires are a huge factor. Some compounds just don't make that lovely noise and grip grip grip. I have had tires I could spin all day but wouldn't make a peep. Others would scream just turning into the parking spot. __________________ 2010 CGM Camaro 2SS LS3 Swapped A6 - GPI LS3 SS1 .647/.638, (224/237, 112 +4, 7º overlap) on CamMotion 8620 core, BTR Platinum .660" Dual Spring kit w/titanium retainers, CHE bronze trunnion upgrade, stock heads milled @ .015, Melling HV 10296 oil pump, TSP 1-7/8" long tube headers (W/Catless Off-road Pipes), Corsa Xtreme 3" Catback, GPI Ported/Rod Mod Intake, Stage 2 Ported Throttle Body, Vararam OTR CAI, Mike Norris Gen 2 catch can + GM 1LE clean side separator, 160º thermostat - Megan Racing adjustable coilovers (lowered 1.75"), MRR M017 10/11" wheels-Tuned by Ryan @ GPI