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JProberts · 10-23-2009, 12:33 AM

Hey Rick and Andy - If I bring my 2SS in for the TVS2300 pqackage you guys are offering how would you feel about using my stock engine cover as a test unit to see how you could modify it for re-installation?

It seems to me that everyone here on the forum want to cover up the coils and wires on the sides of the engine when adding the maggie S/C. You mentioned that you have not yet develoed one and I was wondering if you would use mine for your development/design? It may go along way in drumming up business for these covers when doing your S/C installations.

Just something to take into consideration.

Thanks and let me know what you think.

Chris@Livernois · 10-23-2009, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by JProberts

Hey Rick and Andy - If I bring my 2SS in for the TVS2300 pqackage you guys are offering how would you feel about using my stock engine cover as a test unit to see how you could modify it for re-installation?

It seems to me that everyone here on the forum want to cover up the coils and wires on the sides of the engine when adding the maggie S/C. You mentioned that you have not yet develoed one and I was wondering if you would use mine for your development/design? It may go along way in drumming up business for these covers when doing your S/C installations.

Just something to take into consideration.

Thanks and let me know what you think.

We could definitely give it a shot. Shouldn't be too difficult and will clean up the engine bay a bit.

-Rick

JProberts · 10-23-2009, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick@Livernois

We could definitely give it a shot. Shouldn't be too difficult and will clean up the engine bay a bit.

-Rick

Sounds good, I will remember to mention the engine cover when I am ready to schedule pick-up with you in the near future.

Does adding this S/C affect the different driving modes of the car?

Will all of the different modes still be available and work in the same manner?

How does the tune affect these modes?

Let me know when I get to a question you have never heard?

Thanks

1meanss · 10-23-2009, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JProberts

Sounds good, I will remember to mention the engine cover when I am ready to schedule pick-up with you in the near future.

Does adding this S/C affect the different driving modes of the car?

Will all of the different modes still be available and work in the same manner?

How does the tune affect these modes?

Let me know when I get to a question you have never heard?

Thanks

Dang! You sure ask a lot of questions!
Time to sit back and eat some

JProberts · 10-23-2009, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 1meanss

Dang! You sure ask a lot of questions!
Time to sit back and eat some

me no so smart!

Banshee · 10-23-2009, 03:28 PM

Rick or Andy...

Work has got in the way of stopping by...been gnawing at the bit wanting to see what is what at Livernois..

With the release of the CAI comparo's, this is a naturally aspirated comparison. What CAI would afford the best gains on the Mag install? As well, I would be looking to your guidance on longtubes if the benefit is worth the investment. Yea, they look great with the Maggie, but 20 hp for $1800 is well, a wash. I like fast, but not for that price tag.

So allow me to assume 120 hp on base Mag install.

By adding CAI, longtubes/aftermarket exhaust, tune, what realistic flywheel hp can be achieved over the "base" install? I understand variances between the maybe 12 different CAI and 29 different long tube specs and 782 cat back exhaust packages are negligable, but what would be a mean average over the 120 HP base install, adding all three?

What would be the best longtube, full exhaust and CAI regardless of price?

Thanks!

Tom

Andy@Livernois · 10-23-2009, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Banshee

Rick or Andy...

Work has got in the way of stopping by...been gnawing at the bit wanting to see what is what at Livernois..

With the release of the CAI comparo's, this is a naturally aspirated comparison. What CAI would afford the best gains on the Mag install? As well, I would be looking to your guidance on longtubes if the benefit is worth the investment. Yea, they look great with the Maggie, but 20 hp for $1800 is well, a wash. I like fast, but not for that price tag.

So allow me to assume 120 hp on base Mag install.

By adding CAI, longtubes/aftermarket exhaust, tune, what realistic flywheel hp can be achieved over the "base" install? I understand variances between the maybe 12 different CAI and 29 different long tube specs and 782 cat back exhaust packages are negligable, but what would be a mean average over the 120 HP base install, adding all three?

What would be the best longtube, full exhaust and CAI regardless of price?

Thanks!

Tom

hmm, this begins to get a little grey, where I will admit, some of my own preference in fit/quality/performance will be introduced here. A CAI with the stock size pulley will be a little gain, in the area of about 10 more hp. The one we have been using with the Maggie has been the roto-fab, and I know the Fastlane kit works with the maggie as well, but we have not used it with it yet. It will provide a bigger increase if you opt for the smaller pulley

As far as headers, our preference is Kooks primarily due to their usage of a ball and socket flange, which allows for better flexibility in the exhaust system, extending the life of every part of the system. Of course, in addition to this, they are a fantastic product that fits great, makes great power, and will outlast the car. Then to finish it off, Corsa for exhaust. Plainly, because it doesn't drone. No matter how aggressive of a cam/engine/header we have ever used with a corsa system, it has never had drone. To my own personal taste this is paramount in my decision making. I want an exhaust I can go across the country, and still be smiling after numerous hours at a steady speed

Now the power number of it all, combined with the cost. That is always a question to the purchaser. If it were me, I would put it all on in a heatbeat, but I would add a camshaft, and as much boost as I could run

1meanss · 10-23-2009, 09:56 PM

Bring out the checkbook!
Kiss your money

and when you get it back from them hopefully your spouse doesnt

you on the head.

Banshee · 10-23-2009, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 1meanss

Bring out the checkbook!
Kiss your money

and when you get it back from them hopefully your spouse doesnt

you on the head.

Oh, I know...Not married and have a sugar mama!

I know I will be leaving my checkbook at home because if I don't, the Camaro would go in Monday...I will wait all winter, bug the crap out of Andy with weekly visits.

Andy@Livernois · 10-24-2009, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Banshee

Oh, I know...Not married and have a sugar mama!

I know I will be leaving my checkbook at home because if I don't, the Camaro would go in Monday...I will wait all winter, bug the crap out of Andy with weekly visits.

hey now, there is no rule saying it can't make a winter visit

Proroc · 10-24-2009, 07:44 PM

Well folks Andy and the boy's did a A+

Install and tune. Just took it out for the first ride since getting it back. Feels really strong.

The car is done right. It was as clean if not cleaner that it was when they picked it up.

1st class installation and setup.

Can't wait to get it on the track. It may be a while but will post when I do.

Jeff

Mod4SS · 10-24-2009, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Proroc

Well folks Andy and the boy's did a A+ Install and tune. Just took it out for the first ride since getting it back. Feels really strong. The car is done right. It was as clean if not cleaner that it was when they picked it up. 1st class installation and setup. Can't wait to get it on the track. It may be a while but will post when I do. Jeff

Livernois is picking my car up tomorrow and am excited to see the outcome!

sweaver · 10-24-2009, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Moderator4SS

Livernois is picking my car up tomorrow and am excited to see the outcome!

Yes you will be, I'm in love with the build they did for me, I drove it stock once or twice a week, Now I can't quit driving it, I would live in it if I could!!!

Andy@Livernois · 10-24-2009, 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Proroc

Well folks Andy and the boy's did a A+

Install and tune. Just took it out for the first ride since getting it back. Feels really strong.

The car is done right. It was as clean if not cleaner that it was when they picked it up.

1st class installation and setup.

Can't wait to get it on the track. It may be a while but will post when I do.

Jeff

Thank you, I am glad you are enjoying it, keep me update with any stre... err, track stories you have

10-23-2009, 12:33 AM	#113
JProberts Drives: 2SS RJT RS/Sunroof Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 868	Engine covers Hey Rick and Andy - If I bring my 2SS in for the TVS2300 pqackage you guys are offering how would you feel about using my stock engine cover as a test unit to see how you could modify it for re-installation? It seems to me that everyone here on the forum want to cover up the coils and wires on the sides of the engine when adding the maggie S/C. You mentioned that you have not yet develoed one and I was wondering if you would use mine for your development/design? It may go along way in drumming up business for these covers when doing your S/C installations. Just something to take into consideration. Thanks and let me know what you think.

10-23-2009, 03:28 PM	#118
Banshee Institutionally Insane Drives: 2013 IOM 2SS/RS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Detroit MI Posts: 2,115 View My Garage	Rick or Andy... Work has got in the way of stopping by...been gnawing at the bit wanting to see what is what at Livernois.. With the release of the CAI comparo's, this is a naturally aspirated comparison. What CAI would afford the best gains on the Mag install? As well, I would be looking to your guidance on longtubes if the benefit is worth the investment. Yea, they look great with the Maggie, but 20 hp for $1800 is well, a wash. I like fast, but not for that price tag. So allow me to assume 120 hp on base Mag install. By adding CAI, longtubes/aftermarket exhaust, tune, what realistic flywheel hp can be achieved over the "base" install? I understand variances between the maybe 12 different CAI and 29 different long tube specs and 782 cat back exhaust packages are negligable, but what would be a mean average over the 120 HP base install, adding all three? What would be the best longtube, full exhaust and CAI regardless of price? Thanks! Tom __________________ It's got a cop motor, a 440 cubic inch plant, it's got cop tires, cop suspension, cop shocks. It's a model made before catalytic converters so it'll run good on regular gas. What do you say, is it the new Bluesmobile or what?

10-24-2009, 07:44 PM	#123
Proroc Drives: 2013 Red ZL1 Coupe Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Salem, Va. Posts: 159	Just got her back from Andy Well folks Andy and the boy's did a A+ Install and tune. Just took it out for the first ride since getting it back. Feels really strong. The car is done right. It was as clean if not cleaner that it was when they picked it up. 1st class installation and setup. Can't wait to get it on the track. It may be a while but will post when I do. Jeff

10-23-2009, 09:56 PM	#120
1meanss Drives: 2010 Black Camaro SS/RS Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NW Indiana Posts: 172	Bring out the checkbook! Kiss your money and when you get it back from them hopefully your spouse doesnt you on the head.