Email this knob and tell him to do his job.

[THUMPER20X]

Tired of paying high prices? Email this hapless puppet and tell him to do his job. Gas should be approx 75 cents a litre considering the dollar and crude prices. I emailed him a pissload of facts a week ago proving that we are getting jacked 25cents a litre. Very professional and respectful letter and I got nothing back from anyone in his office etc. Government watchdog.............please...

[SQUALO]

Originally Posted by THUMPER20X

Tired of paying high prices? Email this hapless puppet and tell him to do his job. Gas should be approx 75 cents a litre considering the dollar and crude prices. I emailed him a pissload of facts a week ago proving that we are getting jacked 25cents a litre. Very professional and respectful letter and I got nothing back from anyone in his office etc. Government watchdog.............please...

Who are you talking about? If it's a politition don't waste your time, they just sit back a take in all the perks money can get them. As for oil companies, because the governments don't give a damn, it's a licence to steal. Oh yeah, I forgot the government, is part of that, that's why they won't intervene. They're vehicles always have gas in them.

[THUMPER20X]

Sorry forgot the link. Im so infuriated by these dicks.
http://www.mcteague.ca/

[CanadianCamaro]

Actually you're right that he doesn't do anything about the issue. But then again, no politician does. What Dan McTeague does do however is provide a free service to the general public of notifying the public of price increases/decreases BEFORE they happen which I find very useful. I almost hate to say it but that service alone has made him about the most useful politician I know of. Funny thing is his party will still never get my vote.

[SQUALO]

Originally Posted by CanadianCamaro

Actually you're right that he doesn't do anything about the issue. But then again, no politician does. What Dan McTeague does do however is provide a free service to the general public of notifying the public of price increases/decreases BEFORE they happen which I find very useful. I almost hate to say it but that service alone has made him about the most useful politician I know of. Funny thing is his party will still never get my vote.

NONE of them will get my vote. I'll admit I've voted for all three parties in Prov. & Fed elections, and each one has done what they wanted, once in power, and have screwed up the province/country. I'd like to see these people get a real job, and see what's it's like on the other side of the brick wall

[DGthe3]

How do you figure we're getting screwed out of $0.25/L? The basic cost of crude is around $0.50/L, plus refining and distribution (~$0.20), plus 2 or 3 levels of profit, plus taxes ... I don't see how we're getting screwed that bad. The Americans have lower taxes, get cheaper crude, and have lower distribution costs.

[boreas]

CAA figures we pay about 4-5 cents/L too much in the Montréal area right now... Yep, there are lots of taxes here. Governement could lower the price, but would just pick up a bit more on your paycheck. I prefer to pay for something I use than just have money randomly plowed on my paycheck.

Phil

[THUMPER20X]

LOL gotta love Canada. Everyone just accepts being bent over. No wonder the government is like a nursery school free for all. There's no opposition to it.

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by THUMPER20X

LOL gotta love Canada. Everyone just accepts being bent over. No wonder the government is like a nursery school free for all. There's no opposition to it.

Show me where that $0.25/L you posted about comes from. Near as I can figure, there is $0.10 - $0.15 worth of extra cost most of which is going to be tax. In most of Europe the same gasoline costs twice as much as it does here, so its well over $1/L in tax.

At any rate, even if they eliminate every extra penny of gas tax, what would that accomplish? They'd just raise taxes on something else. Hate gas tax? Don't use as much gasoline, then you don't have to pay it.

[CanadianCamaro]

Try living in the UK.

As for using less gas... gladly... hello, government... viable alternative to fossel fuels... ethanol.... my truck will run it but do you think we have any ethanol stations around? nooooo....

Any who... speaking of getting screwed..... Go Leafs Go!

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by CanadianCamaro

Try living in the UK.

As for using less gas... gladly... hello, government... viable alternative to fossel fuels... ethanol.... my truck will run it but do you think we have any ethanol stations around? nooooo....

Any who... speaking of getting screwed..... Go Leafs Go!

There are numerous ways to use less gas that don't involve alt fuels:

• don't drive (walk, bike, use mass transit, combine trips, carpool, etc)
• drive more efficiently (avoid using the brakes, use highest gear possible, don't accelerate too hard, essentially don't have any fun)
• make your car more efficient (intake/exhaust, low boost forced induction, and certain types of oil are all said to improve fuel economy)

[THUMPER20X]

Crude price, when it was this price the oil was about 100 a barrel.

Strong dollar

Lower demand this time round

Nevermind,, though cant actually speak out against perfect Canada lol.
Personally it doesnt affect me that much its Canada in general and probly more Ontario that seems like such a scam half the time. And I have lived and worked in 3 other countries so no oh "go see what its like somewhere else" lol. Ususally 9/10 those are the people that have never been anywhere.

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by THUMPER20X

Crude price, when it was this price the oil was about 100 a barrel.

Strong dollar

Lower demand this time round

Nevermind,, though cant actually speak out against perfect Canada lol.
Personally it doesnt affect me that much its Canada in general and probly more Ontario that seems like such a scam half the time. And I have lived and worked in 3 other countries so no oh "go see what its like somewhere else" lol. Ususally 9/10 those are the people that have never been anywhere.

But the last time gas was this high oil was cheaper at about $70/barrel. Our dollar was worth ~5% less then, so cost per barrel would have been about $74 CAD vs $84 now. The time before that, oil was $65/barrel. I can't find what our dollar was worth then though. Looking at it the other way, last time oil was this high the price of regular was about $1.10/L in the Hamilton area. My data is from hamiltongasprices.com which has been tracking oil and gas prices for several years. It also shows where the lowest priced regions are. Southern Ontario has some of the lowest prices in the country due to lower tax and cheaper distribution costs (due to infrastructure and population density).

I simply don't know how you are justifying this beyond a gut feeling. Show me proof to support your position and I'll reconsider my own. But making general anti-government/tax statements isn't going to convince me.

By the way, I guess I'm part of that 1/10. I have visited several Europe nations within the last year though I didn't have to buy any gas. I could still see the prices, do the conversion, remember what prices were like back home, and compare. Not that it matters since its possible to look up those sorts of things on the internet.

[SoloSK71]

Gasoline is approx 50% of a barrel (42 US gallons) of oil ...

Extraction costs for conventional oil are around 5$ a barrel ...

Transportation costs, once your pipeline is amortized are around 2$ a barrel ...

Refining costs, once your plant is amortized are around 1$ a barrel ...

Transportation costs, for refined gas, once your pipeline is amortized are around 1$ a barrel ...

So, US dollar oil prices range from a low of 9$ a barrel to a high, for a completely non-amortized chain, of around 22$ a barrel ...

so, just counting gasoline, 9$ for 21 gallons to 22$ for 21 gallons ... 42.8¢ a gallon to 1.04$ a gallon ...

of course you can add in the fact that the oil companies get a lot of other product out of a barrel of oil, perhaps not a valuable per gallon in terms of demand, and that gas, diesel, heating fuel, av-gas can be interconverted for a price ...

yah, I would say we are paying a little too much, especially when there has not been a new refinery built in years in Canada ...

- SK