[LT4Greg]

I would hope he could run in the 9s with all the mods and money spent on the car!

[caSStro18]

Originally Posted by Zaqwert6

Nice run.



Yes, that's the definition of a 9 second pass.

It wasn’t meant to offend anyone. I just don’t follow drag racing enough to know that anything between 9 and 10 seconds is considered a 9 second pass. When I see 9.94 my mind automatically rounds to 10 because that’s how math works. And I teach math so maybe that’s why. 9.94 is only 6 hundredths of a second below 10 seconds which is not much. Sorry if I made anyone mad. I just didn’t know the definition of a 9 second pass when it comes to drag racing.

[LT4Greg]

caSS, it was just short of 10 seconds but in drag racing it is considered a high 9 second pass when describing the run.

[ZX-10R]

Originally Posted by LT4Greg

I would hope he could run in the 9s with all the mods and money spent on the car!

Would be very interesting to add up the costs to get a ZL1 and SS into the 9s, assuming starting price of the ZL1 is $50k and SS is $30k (used of course, A10 trans)

My money is on the ZL1, you can pretty much get there with bolt ons and race gas

[LT4Greg]

Probably so ZX-10R!��

[396ssrat]

2008 and newer don't need a roll cage until quicker than 10.00.
Congrats on the 9 second pass. Of course you can trim a little off your tune and stay cage free. Problem is that it's addicting to go faster and faster. There are people who can install a cage but do your homework first. Camaro's are hard enough to get into as it is.

[BlackbeastSS2]

Originally Posted by 396ssrat

2008 and newer don't need a roll cage until quicker than 10.00.
Congrats on the 9 second pass. Of course you can trim a little off your tune and stay cage free. Problem is that it's addicting to go faster and faster. There are people who can install a cage but do your homework first. Camaro's are hard enough to get into as it is.

Here’s a hidden cage on a 6Gen Camaro. Not your average install and looks pricey.

https://youtu.be/-YEXYQmFQKk

[lt4camaro]

Originally Posted by caSStro18

It wasn’t meant to offend anyone. I just don’t follow drag racing enough to know that anything between 9 and 10 seconds is considered a 9 second pass. When I see 9.94 my mind automatically rounds to 10 because that’s how math works. And I teach math so maybe that’s why. 9.94 is only 6 hundredths of a second below 10 seconds which is not much. Sorry if I made anyone mad. I just didn’t know the definition of a 9 second pass when it comes to drag racing.

Try some 1/4 mile passes and less time in the math class LOL and yeah a 9.99 is a 9 sec pass just like a 10.00 is a 10 sec pass. Either you have a 10 sec car or a 9 sec car...huge difference in the 1/4 mile world.

[KingLT1]

Originally Posted by ZX-10R

Would be very interesting to add up the costs to get a ZL1 and SS into the 9s, assuming starting price of the ZL1 is $50k and SS is $30k (used of course, A10 trans)

My money is on the ZL1, you can pretty much get there with bolt ons and race gas

You can get a SS into the 9's for cheaper then the cost of a ZL1 if the price gap is 20k or larger between the 2 models.

A ZL1 will need: Bolt-ons, ported stock blower, drag pack, meth or race gas.

SS will need: Super charger, Fuel system, drag pack, meth and/or race gas.

If you purchased a SS for 30k, then you can do the above for less then 15k.


The fastest SBE LT1 with boost has currently been mid 9's at 14X mph. The mods were:

P1x @ 12psi
LT4 fueling
Meth
MSD intake
Headers
Converter

I have 42k total investment into my car(purchased for 31k with 900 miles) and it runs mid 10's on the street with 20" wheels. At the track with a drag pack I would suspect it would pull bottom 10's. With another 8k invested pretty sure I could get it into the 9's and I might be able to do it as is with weight reduction. Even at that I am still a bit Cheaper then what a stock ZL1 costs and would pull a train on one. Does that mean I think the SS is a better buy....Not at all so lets not go there. I am just addressing your theory on the total investment being cheaper to get a ZL1 into the 9's.

[caSStro18]

Originally Posted by lt4camaro

Try some 1/4 mile passes and less time in the math class LOL and yeah a 9.99 is a 9 sec pass just like a 10.00 is a 10 sec pass. Either you have a 10 sec car or a 9 sec car...huge difference in the 1/4 mile world.

Well, since my job is teaching math, if I want to keep my Camaro I better not spend less time in math class. Lol. It does seem strange that 9.99 is considered the same as 9, I guess that’s how it defined in the 1/4 mile world. Mathematically incorrect, but, apparently that does not apply here. It’s like saying $9.99 is really just $9.00. Odd, but honestly I don’t really care because I don’t live in the 1/4 mile world.

[KingLT1]

You don't call a 9.9x a 10 second pass it's just that simple. It would be classified as a high 9 second car....You have three categories within that time frame(high, mid, and low). 9.7-9.9 is high, 9.4-9.6 is mid, 9.0-9.3 is low. That is how it's always been categorized in drag racing.

[ZX-10R]

Originally Posted by KingLT1

I have 42k total investment into my car(purchased for 31k with 900 miles) I am just addressing your theory on the total investment being cheaper to get a ZL1 into the 9's.

So $73k total investment, and you don't think a ZL1 can get there for the same investment? Disagree. Plus there are plenty of ZL1s for $45k now

The main thing is I don't trust a stock LT1 at higher boost (> ~8 psi), you're probably living on borrowed time. The LT4 is designed for boost and can support up to 900-1000 hp, reliably

[caSStro18]

Originally Posted by KingLT1

You don't call a 9.9x a 10 second pass it's just that simple. It would be classified as a high 9 second car....You have three categories within that time frame(high, mid, and low). 9.7-9.9 is high, 9.4-9.6 is mid, 9.0-9.3 is low. That is how it's always been categorized in drag racing.

Well calling it high, mid, low, makes sense. When I hear “it’s a 9 second car” I think closer to 9 seconds, not almost 10. But again, I don’t live in that world and those who do can call it whatever they want. Heck, call 19.99 seconds a 10 second run for all I care. I was just seeing it from a mathematical perspective. That’s just how my mind works.

I am curious though, as I am learning more, when they pair up cars to race against each other, do they pair them based on time? I mean, do they pair up cars that run in the 9’s with other cars that run in the 9’s? If that the case, a car that runs low 9’s going up against a car that runs high 9’s doesn’t seem like a fair race.

[grampa_ss]

Originally Posted by ZX-10R

So $73k total investment, and you don't think a ZL1 can get there for the same investment? Disagree. Plus there are plenty of ZL1s for $45k now

The main thing is I don't trust a stock LT1 at higher boost (> ~8 psi), you're probably living on borrowed time. The LT4 is designed for boost and can support up to 900-1000 hp, reliably

Not what he meant. 42K total is just that....42K total.