Do you want the Z28?

[boxmonkeyracing]

Originally Posted by The_Beast_

Personally I am kind happy that I canexpect it in 9 years it gives me tiem to get into and out of college then geta job so I can get on of them too.

it could be out in 3-4 no one has confirmed a time line or wot not so aim sooner to be prepared for it if it comes later. lol. wish I had.

[The_Beast_]

Originally Posted by boxmonkeyracing

it could be out in 3-4 no one has confirmed a time line or wot not so aim sooner to be prepared for it if it comes later. lol. wish I had.

I thinkit would be better to aim low so you dont get disapointed if it comes later. So if yo hope for 3 years and it comes out in 9 you'll kindof lose hope. But if you hope for 9 and it comes out in 3 then your happy. An plus I think It makes sense since the GT500 came back at an annaversary.

[boxmonkeyracing]

Originally Posted by The_Beast_

I thinkit would be better to aim low so you dont get disapointed if it comes later. So if yo hope for 3 years and it comes out in 9 you'll kindof lose hope. But if you hope for 9 and it comes out in 3 then your happy. An plus I think It makes sense since the GT500 came back at an annaversary.

but my point was if it comes out in 3 and you're expecting 9 then you might not be financially expecting it and won't be able to get it. that was what I was going for. hoping for it sooner preparing for it sooner but won't be shocked if it takes longer.

[iPODFAN11]

Originally Posted by littlecammi

You are right. You had asked if AutoWeek mentioned anything about the supercharged Camaro prototype, and my response was very indirect.

AutoWeek did not mention anything about the supercharged Camaro when they reported the existence of the turbo 4-cylinder Camaro prototype in their August 4th issue. Their view was that no future muscle car programs will be approved by American carmakers. The inference is that any ultra-high performance variant of the Camaro (like the Z28 rumored on this forum) which has not already been approved for production by GM management will not be approved.

Ok, if GM can get away with making a damn ZR1 corvette making 638hp and get decent fuel eco, why can't they make a freakin Z28 top dog?? If GM can manage to improve the rest of their line-up to get WAY better fuel economy to comply with 35mpg for 2020, then how much could it really hurt them to make a HiPo Z28 and STILL be meeting CAFE standards?

[Wm Holden]

Tall order just the same.

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by iPODFAN11

Ok, if GM can get away with making a damn ZR1 corvette making 638hp and get decent fuel eco, why can't they make a freakin Z28 top dog?? If GM can manage to improve the rest of their line-up to get WAY better fuel economy to comply with 35mpg for 2020, then how much could it really hurt them to make a HiPo Z28 and STILL be meeting CAFE standards?

Not by much, especially when you consider that it isn't as simply as adding up the average economy of all cars sold. There are lots of little tricks that everyone does to improve their CAFE numbers.

[iPODFAN11]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

Not by much, especially when you consider that it isn't as simply as adding up the average economy of all cars sold. There are lots of little tricks that everyone does to improve their CAFE numbers.

Very true. Heck, I even forgot the CTS/CTC-V. I think it can be done, even if the Z28 were in limited numbeers/yr, I think it can be done.

[radz28]

Originally Posted by iPODFAN11

Very true. Heck, I even forgot the CTS/CTC-V. I think it can be done, even if the Z28 were in limited numbeers/yr, I think it can be done.

That's what many of us are optimic for. I just cross my fingers we get something along those lines or I'll have to have to eat a lot of crow.

[Rickys S/C Z28]

info on if there is going to be a Z28 car?? if so were can i read about it?? im sorry if this has been talked about before im kinda new on here thank
Ricky

[The_Blur]

There is no evidence of a Z28 to date. Many are holding onto hope of a Z28 in the future, but right now there is no Z28 slated for production. For the near future, plan on the SS being the dominant trim. All of this is sourced from GM and discussion on this site.

The Z28 is the hottest topic on this site. Be sure to do a search for some interesting, creative, and good information. If there is a Z28, you'll know it from this site.

[Rickys S/C Z28]

thanks man im a Z28 fan id would rather have a Z28 then a SS

[Punk_rider]

Originally Posted by littlecammi

It is a good thing the Camaro and Challenger programs were approved years ago. The general thinking at AutoWeek is that neither one would be approved for production if they were up for discussion now. The new Lincoln will only get a V6 - no V8 engine. The twin-turbo EcoBoost V6 will make 340hp for the Lincoln next year (non-turbo V6 only available at the start of Lincoln production) and is capable of 414hp if they choose to put it in the Mustang. GM has already completely killed the program for a next-gen V8 engine to replace the aging Northstar. Ford had 5.7L and 6.2L V8 engines under development for the F150 (and possible Mustang) called the Hurricane engine series, but renamed them Boss engines after the destruction from hurricane Katrina. That program was put on hold several times, and has now been reduced to only one displacement that will be used in the heavy duty truck series only. The next F150 is not even going to get the new Boss V8. (Mustang enthusiasts hope that Ford at least puts a supercharged version of it in the next GT500.)

All of this (and a lot more that I've read but am not including here) portend that just like the first musclecar era started dying as the Challenger came out in 1970, now that the '09 Challenger is here the current musclecar era will be going away soon. There will always be the uber sports cars (Ferraris and Porsches, etc.) for the truly rich, but there won't be any more affordable musclecars approved by American car manufacturers. I've been married for almost 28 years and my wife thinks she has the power of veto over any car purchase, but I'm still trying to figure how I can save up and buy one of these beautiful 422hp SS Camaros before the current musclecar era is over.

Well ... first, oil won't go up forever I guess. There was a big crisis these last months. What I find funny is to hear some of my colleagues (I work in an investment bank) speculating on the price still going up or down ... come on guys ... you weren't able to see the last increase in price, you weren't able to see the subprime crisis come and you still speculate?

Second, everything depends on the sales. If the camaro, challenger and so on are a big commercial success, I don't see any reason for the era to stop

Third, the "green era" won't last forever too. Actually, I think their "global warming" bullshits won't work forever. LEt's think about it, green laws don't come from the scientific nor political world: ecological politics have been a big fail since the 70'. Now we are all supposed to be green ... why? because green products are more expensive, because big companies were facing some kinda decrease in demand and created the "green thing" to make the demand go up again. Thus, when everything will be "green", companies won't have interest in it, and will find something else ... like ... PLEASURE! Thus, muscle cars

Fourth, the car industry is pretty competitive ... and the competition is about price, fuel economy, security, etc ... AND prestige! thus, fast muscle cars.

This is the reason why I still think (hope) that a Z28 550+hp will be done quite soon. Maybe not as a wide serie, but at least as a special car to show in magazines.

Fbod told us to keep the faith ... Let's say he doesn't have an interest into looking like a liar here ... or anywhere else.

All that being said, I don't know, nobody knows, maybe even fbod doesn't really knows.

[Punk_rider]

Originally Posted by iPODFAN11

Very true. Heck, I even forgot the CTS/CTC-V. I think it can be done, even if the Z28 were in limited numbeers/yr, I think it can be done.

Especially if we all check our tire pressure!

[Captain Awesome]

Originally Posted by Rickys S/C Z28

thanks man im a Z28 fan id would rather have a Z28 then a SS

How do you know that? There's no info on the Z28. It could be something you hate when it does come out. What if it had a turbo 4 in it? What if it were a station wagon variant? Or a 4-door? Or had tons of stick-on ground effects you hated? Would you still rather have something you don't know yet what that something is?

If all you care about is the letters on the badge then you can always change the SS badge to something you prefer and be content.