Question about manually shifting an auto

[1JEWLDSSRS]

Originally Posted by gunchamp

Ok, so I'm going to do some data logging when I can actually drive for an extended period. Insurance goes back on in the next couple weeks, so I can actually take it further than just around my home. I spoke with James @ GPI and he said that they tune the trans to be ran in "D" as the best option for say, drag racing and general driving. The manual thing will happen as I described and can not be disabled from what they said. The computer takes over in manual mode using the paddles if you dont shift before the rev limiter hits. Sucks but is what it is.

Cool to know, thanks. Mine is tuned in sport mode for my crazy driving, and my drive mode was left pretty much alone, just tweaked the firmness and WOT shift points, I always drive in sport mode and never use drive. Also he has my trans tuned to what he said is "manual auto lock", so that anytime I go into manual mode with the paddles, it automatically locks the converter in which ever gear I am in. I use this driving around town to keep the trans temps low so the converter isn't slipping and getting hot. When I want to get the full use of the converter stall I just hold the up button in and it goes back into sport and unlocks the converter so it can function as it should, really kinda cool feature, I like it, has been that way ever since the first tune back when we did the cam swap and original 3200 stall.

[gunchamp]

Originally Posted by 1JEWLDSSRS

Cool to know, thanks. Mine is tuned in sport mode for my crazy driving, and my drive mode was left pretty much alone, just tweaked the firmness and WOT shift points, I always drive in sport mode and never use drive. Also he has my trans tuned to what he said is "manual auto lock", so that anytime I go into manual mode with the paddles, it automatically locks the converter in which ever gear I am in. I use this driving around town to keep the trans temps low so the converter isn't slipping and getting hot. When I want to get the full use of the converter stall I just hold the up button in and it goes back into sport and unlocks the converter so it can function as it should, really kinda cool feature, I like it, has been that way ever since the first tune back when we did the cam swap and original 3200 stall.

Thats actually pretty badass. Ill have to ask about that for mine. I like the idea

[1JEWLDSSRS]

Yes sir it is!! After some spirited driving and the temp gets up to around 200 all I have to do is tap either the down shift or the upshift button and go into manual and you feel it lockup and from there just cruise around at whatever speed the speed limit is and watch the temps drop back down. In sport he has it set to lockup at 55mph, so unless I'm doing that, she won't lock around town, so I drive in manual all the time to keep it cool!!

[Tarendor]

All of that is in the trans tune and fully controllable with hptuners.

With hptuners that is one of the many things you can change and adjust to your liking or totally blow up if your so inclined.

Baby steps is the key.

[gunchamp]

Originally Posted by Tarendor

All of that is in the trans tune and fully controllable with hptuners.

With hptuners that is one of the many things you can change and adjust to your liking or totally blow up if your so inclined.

Baby steps is the key.

I have HP tuners, but will gladly admit that I'm terrified of it lol. I've been using remote tuners

[SSkat]

My tuner has mine set where it raises the shift point when I go into manual mode and it shifts itself. Its a lot easier for mexico than bumping it back to D. My previous tuner though had it set to where it didnt shift out of gear in manual mode so I know you can change it.

[mikeinmobile]

Originally Posted by SlingShot

There have been several write up's about the SS and 1st gear. If memory is working properly it's been proven the SS starts in 1st gear in both Drive and Sport. I know for a fact the ZL1 starts in 2nd while in Drive, and 1st while in Sport. Also with my Sedan SS with 6l80, it starts in 1st in both Drive and Sport, and doesn't auto shift while in manual mode.

Mine definitely starts out in 2nd in drive and sport. Absolutely will not roll the tires in drive or sport unless I manual down to 1st. When I first got her I was frustrated that it wouldn't burn out. Of course once I realized I was in 2nd problem solved. I had a loaner before I bought one and it would smoke 'em in drive so I'm curious as to why mine starts in 2nd because the loaner which was identical in every way to the one I purchased would roll 'em real easy w/o manual shifting.

[InFiD3ViL]

Originally Posted by gunchamp

Thats actually pretty badass. Ill have to ask about that for mine. I like the idea

Yes, very cool and likely how I will ask Ryan to do it when I decide on my convertor.

I am wondering though, as I have no convertor experience (especially in relation to the 6L80e), is this normal behavior with the paddles?

I guess what I am asking is...is there normally no convertor flash when using paddles? I am wondering how other 6L80 owners paddles behave when running a convertor, compared to pre-convertor.

[gunchamp]

Originally Posted by InFiD3ViL

Yes, very cool and likely how I will ask Ryan to do it when I decide on my convertor.

I am wondering though, as I have no convertor experience (especially in relation to the 6L80e), is this normal behavior with the paddles?

I guess what I am asking is...is there normally no convertor flash when using paddles? I am wondering how other 6L80 owners paddles behave when running a convertor, compared to pre-convertor.

With my current tune, my converter flashes high in both regular driving and using the paddles

[1JEWLDSSRS]

Originally Posted by mikeinmobile

Mine definitely starts out in 2nd in drive and sport. Absolutely will not roll the tires in drive or sport unless I manual down to 1st. When I first got her I was frustrated that it wouldn't burn out. Of course once I realized I was in 2nd problem solved. I had a loaner before I bought one and it would smoke 'em in drive so I'm curious as to why mine starts in 2nd because the loaner which was identical in every way to the one I purchased would roll 'em real easy w/o manual shifting.

Wow, that's crazy. Mine has always started out in 1st gear in drive or sport, the only time she has ever started out in 2nd is in manual mode. From day one, and also now being tuned.

[1JEWLDSSRS]

Originally Posted by gunchamp

With my current tune, my converter flashes high in both regular driving and using the paddles

When mine is in manual mode 1st or 2nd gear to start out, the converter is locked and does not flash, as in any manual gear I might be in, it only will flash in sport or drive when she is unlocked, then it will flash to 4800-5000 and hang on, smoke show.

[1JEWLDSSRS]

Originally Posted by InFiD3ViL

Yes, very cool and likely how I will ask Ryan to do it when I decide on my convertor.

I am wondering though, as I have no convertor experience (especially in relation to the 6L80e), is this normal behavior with the paddles?

I guess what I am asking is...is there normally no convertor flash when using paddles? I am wondering how other 6L80 owners paddles behave when running a convertor, compared to pre-convertor.

From what I have experienced is, it's up to the tuner on the converter operation in manual mode. When I had the car re-tuned locally he had the converter set to be "unlocked" in manual mode and driving her around for a couple of days the trans would get pretty hot, up to 220 and this was the way I found about it because I used manual mode to cool it down because it would lock and couldn't anymore and I didn't like his tune on it and I went back and had him put my original trans tune back and all was back to normal temp wise. It wouldn't lock up anywhere in his tune except WOT. When I installed the 4200 stall I went back down to the shop that did my original tune for the 3200 and had him tweek my tune for the 4200 and now all was good, back to normal. That is where he mentioned the "manual auto lock" function to me, because I asked him about the paddles..

[5thGenDylan]

My car only has a "D" and an "M" for manual/sport. I have banged the limiter a few times while learning the paddles, but my car never upshifted on its own in "M" even after hitting the limiter pretty hard. Car just cuts power like I lost traction. The only time it has auto upshifted on me is in "D". I am only CAI/no tune so take from this what you will, but in my experience racing with the paddles always gave me better results than letting the car shift for me in "M/S" mode. It took some getting used to with the shift delay, but I feel like I get more out of each gear than the car does when shifting automatically. Managed to beat a 19 ScatPack Charger from a 40 3/4 times in manual. Maybe it's all in my head lol.

[1JEWLDSSRS]

Originally Posted by 5thGenDylan

My car only has a "D" and an "M" for manual/sport. I have banged the limiter a few times while learning the paddles, but my car never upshifted on its own in "M" even after hitting the limiter pretty hard. Car just cuts power like I lost traction. The only time it has auto upshifted on me is in "D". I am only CAI/no tune so take from this what you will, but in my experience racing with the paddles always gave me better results than letting the car shift for me in "M/S" mode. It took some getting used to with the shift delay, but I feel like I get more out of each gear than the car does when shifting automatically. Managed to beat a 19 ScatPack Charger from a 40 3/4 times in manual. Maybe it's all in my head lol.

You get more out of it you say when using the paddles because you can take it past where the stock ECM tune would shift it in sport or drive, you can run it out to the limiter. Also if you read your owners manual it tells you in there that these trans have 2 different shift patterns, operation in drive mode is normal and kinda subdued, but in sport mode it will shift a little higher and with a bit more firmness than in drive. Oh and be very careful banging the limiter with those stock AFM lifters... They are not the best for this stuff.