2024 Camaro?

[Zr8000]

Originally Posted by FlukeSS

So the only reason is efficiency.

Very well then, I guess 200 miles per battery charge and 1 hour charge session after it runs out is much more efficient than a 450+ mile V8.

Correct me if I'm wrong as I'm not an electrical engineer but last time I checked there was a device that multiplies electric output?

I think they call it a "Voltage Multiplier?"

That article describes the amount of power to run the alternator is more than the power the alternator would produce.

So what reason would there be not to use a Voltage Multiplier?

Voltage isn’t the issue. It is amperage that is needed to keep those batteries charged and it would take a big generator to do it, not a little car alternator. The hybrid greens mowers I use to sell ran a 16hp gen set to power a buffer pack for the electric drive, reel drive and lift. When you went up a hill that 16hp engine would grunt. It would take way more power to spin a generator than it can produce.

[cthulhucaller]

Originally Posted by FlukeSS

The law of conservation of energy, also known as the first law of thermodynamics, states that the energy of a closed system must remain constant—it can neither increase nor decrease without interference from outside.

Am I misinterpreting this?

Also a Boost converter is not a Voltage Multiplier device. An alternator produces AC. A Voltage Multiplier device converts AC to DC and multiplies the DC Voltage many times.

We are not changing the closed system's energy, we are converting its output to a higher Voltage which would be higher than the DC drain on the battery. (Theoretically assuming all factors are considered properly)

Truly closed systems, without interference, exist only in theory. Anything you actually build, is going to suffer interference, even if you just made a motor that powered an alternator, that powered the motor. There are no truly frictionless materials, no alternators or motors that don't create some heat, and no wires without some resistance to connect them. This is before we actually move the car, or turn on a light.

I'm no electrical engineer, but I had to take a lot of their classes while working on a physics degree. I promise you that a self charging car, never needing charging or fuel is not possible at all.

[keep_hope_alive]

The work used to turn the alternator (or generator) will always be more than the output energy provided by the alternator. Input = Output + Losses. Output < Input, always.

EV motors can become generators and recharge during coasting/braking. That's what regenerative braking is. It's how the new Toyota RAV4 Prime gets such good fuel economy - it balances motor contribution and regen.

[90503]

2024 Camaro:

[Number 3]

Originally Posted by FlukeSS

$20 says it has a 200 mile range too, and if you want the extended battery.... $30,000 more, so $70,000 for 100mile range increase just like the F150 Lightning

This has not been GMs play here. At a minimum it would have 300 mile range. Check Lyriq and Blazer

[keep_hope_alive]

Originally Posted by 90503

2024 Camaro:

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Exactly. With an optional fan blowing a sail.

[ZPirate]

Originally Posted by Jeb114

https://www.motortrend.com/features/...A8uZQxBCOcdwk0

Fugly!

[FlukeSS]

Originally Posted by flobb

1. the "render" is nothing more than a photoshop of the EV Blazer. https://www.chevrolet.com/electric/i...g?imwidth=1920

2. whether intentional or not, Fluke is being a massive troll.

Actually I'm not. They were honest questions.

To theorize what the biggest issues were involving EV.

Sure I'd rather have a V8 for fun like everyone else, but the idea that EV's are even remotely practical is more of a troll than anything I can come up with.

[ChevyRules]

Originally Posted by Number 3

This has not been GMs play here. At a minimum it would have 300 mile range. Check Lyriq and Blazer

Base blazer ev is 247 miles range. 2LT is 293, The RS gets 320 miles and SS gets 290 miles.

[raptor5244]

Originally Posted by ChevyRules

Base blazer ev is 247 miles range. The RS gets close with 293 miles and SS gets 320 miles.

Which is all you really need for a daily driver. Road trips more inconvenient in an EV but still very doable with fast charging.

[FlukeSS]

Originally Posted by Zr8000

Voltage isn’t the issue. It is amperage that is needed to keep those batteries charged and it would take a big generator to do it, not a little car alternator. The hybrid greens mowers I use to sell ran a 16hp gen set to power a buffer pack for the electric drive, reel drive and lift. When you went up a hill that 16hp engine would grunt. It would take way more power to spin a generator than it can produce.

According to Ohms law:

In a circuit, cutting the resistance by half and leaving the voltage unchanged will double the amperage across the circuit.

But as others mentioned the issue is not changing resistance, but again according to Ohms Law:

If the circuit's resistance remains unchanged, the amperage in a circuit can be increased by increasing the voltage.

Which is exactly what a Voltage Multiplier does.

The analogy they use in this example is as follows:

If the electrical circuit were compared to a pipe carrying water, the voltage represents the pressure of the water, the resistance represents the pipe's diameter, and the amperage represents the amount of water flowing in the pipe per time interval. If the pipe remains unchanged and the water pressure doubles, the amount of water flowing through the pipe would also increase.

Are my questions/ideas still a troll because a lot of scientific principals seems to support it.

Honestly I'm not trying to troll, I'm just theory crafting if nothing else, but I guess some people don't enjoy doing that as much as I do.

[ChevyRules]

Originally Posted by raptor5244

Which is all you really need for a daily driver. Road trips more inconvenient in an EV but still very doable with fast charging.

For most people yeah. I was just countering the statement of 300 mile range minimum with Blazer being referenced when the minimum for Blazer is actually 247 miles.

[FlukeSS]

Originally Posted by ChevyRules

Base blazer ev is 247 miles range. 2LT is 293, The RS gets 320 miles and SS gets 290 miles.

2LT = $47,500
RS = ? $64,000?

[raptor5244]

Originally Posted by ChevyRules

For most people yeah. I was just countering the statement of 300 mile range minimum with Blazer being referenced when the minimum for Blazer is actually 247 miles.

Yep, which is probably more like 200 usable if you drive with a light foot in the city and stay at 65mph or less on the highway. It is no different in my ZL1. I am supposed to get 13mpg in the city but I get like 10.6mpg when I drive it.