07-14-2024, 09:13 PM | #2297 | |
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I stand firmly my by analysis as fact. You’re free to your opinion.
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07-14-2024, 09:13 PM | #2298 | |
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I like Griotts 3 in 1 green wax. It doesn't streak or make a mess on plastic or require buffing if a light coat is used. Project Farm youtube had good reviews also. A gallon transferred to a small spray bottle and small spray bottle of distilled water with a few sprays on a microfiber cloth make a good portable waterless one step wash and wax with no buff required. Makes some good use of the extra minutes of time if needed. Not a huge inconvenience. |
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07-14-2024, 09:32 PM | #2300 | |
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Everything that requires fuel in any capacity is measured between 0% and 100% From gas on your car to the battery charge in your phone to the nitrogen level in the space shuttle. Even the percentage of oxygen saturation in human blood is measured in percentage, with 100% being normal for healthy human beings. So, let’s stay in the medical field shall we? Thats a very large portion of the American work force. If you don’t agree please correct me. Let’s say a nurse buys her first EV. She knows nothing about cars, just only what she’s been told about how great EVs are. If someone tells her to charge only to 80%, and then not let it grow below 20%, she may or may not care to remember in her first few charges. But she works 3+ 12 hour shifts per week covering 4-6 sick patients on her nursing unit, and has two kids. The last thing on her mind is “charge percentage”. She’s going to let it go to bear 0 and then fully charge it to 100% only when it needs it. Maybe you can help reminder by sending her a text every time she hits 20%.
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07-14-2024, 11:22 PM | #2301 | |
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07-14-2024, 11:34 PM | #2302 | |
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07-15-2024, 04:16 AM | #2303 | |
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Quit thinking like ANY of that. It’s easy - for you. Since we’re throwing puns around (one of Elvis’ last hits off his 1977 Moody Blue album) It’s not going to be “that simple” for millions of Americans who wouldn’t even assimilate using their phone app to “fueling” a car. And again, they are going to go by the gauge on the dash. You do not get it. I’m sorry. I know you’ve tried. I know these type of people much better than you.
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07-15-2024, 07:10 AM | #2304 | |
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This also tags into what I said about ICE infrastructure. Just look at one square mile in Los Angeles and count how many gas stations are there. It's going to take a long time to get to that point with charging stations but then again you can't gas up at home. |
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07-15-2024, 07:22 AM | #2305 | ||
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Actually, I think like a customer. Do you think it was only engineers who bought 1.2M EVs last year? If only engineers can figure out a slider to set your charging limits Quote:
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07-15-2024, 08:36 AM | #2306 | |
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These are all people, who, of course, are going to learn all about them, take serious interest in their daily operation, and have some at-least basic knowledge of what makes them different from ICE gas. The nurse with 2 kids working 3 12+ hour shifts every week? She needs 4 wheels. That turn forward. That is the extent of her knowledge, interest, and desire to learn about EVs or cars in general. She knows when the gauge on the dash for her gas car reads close to ”E” that it’s time to put gas in, and will pump it till it stops. Which will show at “F”. If she gets back into her car and it reads “80%”, she’ll say it’s not full and needs to top it off. Trust me. I’m not exaggerating or talking out of my backside here.
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07-15-2024, 08:45 AM | #2307 | |
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By the way, you do realize that this runs totally counter to the idea that you and others espouse in this thread that people are being forced into EVs.
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07-15-2024, 09:43 AM | #2308 | |
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I think back to your comment on this can be done on ICE cars, YEP. So why don't they, it costs nothin'. I fill up my cars when they are at half tank. I don't run out of gas and feel more secure like that. This could be a cool feature to ICE cars but it's one of the reasons I like my Tesla despite shortcommings like the spartan interior. I see the charge status many times a day and if it's plugged in in front of the house I can turn on or off the charge or as you said use slider to make it charge up to and when I want. So many things non-owners don't know. |
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07-15-2024, 10:10 AM | #2309 |
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So price to me that all manufacturers are still free to make V6 and V8 cars that get 20 mpg for the next 30 years.
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07-15-2024, 10:44 AM | #2310 | |
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Most people that I know buy cars as appliances. They are not remotely enthusiasts (my Camaro has been disrespected by being called a Mustang so many time I cannot count ). Most of these people are not engineers. They have all been able to figure out and use the apps for non-EV cars, most of them understand that it is better to not charge a battery to 100% nor let it get to 0%, so it wouldn't be hard to have them figure out to press a single button in an application for EVs. I know people that bought an EV, people who previously only bought appliance cars (aka Toyotas) and who couldn't figure out how to use a GoPro and transfer videos off of it (hint: you plug it into a USB port, that's literally it). They figured out how to press that button in the app so that the majority of the time it only charges to 80%, and they even know to switch it back to 100% when they are getting ready for a road trip where they don't want to stop for a longer stretch. My mom, who was tech adverse until well past retirement age (she had a flip phone until then and still had difficulty using that), is now able to use an Ipad to play games and look at pictures on Facebook. She can even pinch to zoom and swipe! If the majority of people can use smartphones [https://www.pewresearch.org/internet...sheet/mobile/] then installing an app and pressing a button does not seem difficult. I don't doubt that there will be some people who will not be able to for whatever reason, but then people still drive away from gas stations with the nozzle in their fuel fillers. I'm not sure that those small few are (nor should be) representative of the world. |
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