Camaro SS VS. GXP VS. SRT8...need some help thinking about buying!

[AZ MSCL]

Originally Posted by 1bad65

Those Cube's are hideous! Man, she sure doesn't have the good car taste you and your wife have.

I'm curious, why not try to get her in a V6 Challenger instead of a Camaro? I ask cause the Challenger is alot bigger car, and rates better in crash tests. Whenever someone mentions their kid getting a car, I always think of that 'Who's The Boss' episode where Tony got his daughter that huge car, painted it bright yellow, and put reflectors all over it. lol

but I don't think she would want it either. I suppose another motivation is to buy her something she wants (within reason), with the hope that she will "own" the car and take care of it. This younger generation has some funny ideas about what's cool when it comes to cars. She likes the Ford Flex too

Wife and I are old school when it comes to cars: Hopefully one day we will have a garage full of late 60's and early 70's muscle cars.

[chappy48]

I'm guessing she likes the blocky, blingy, futuristic looking vehicles (Flex, Cube, Scion xB, Honda Element etc...). To each there own. What about roadsters? Like a Miata, Saturn Skyy, Honda S2000 or Solstice? Those are "cool". But she wouldn't be able to drive many friends around. But, wind in your hair, with the top down on a twisty road...can't beat that.

[1bad65]

I'd never give a teenager a compact convertible. It's an accident waiting to happen.

[Stew]

Interesting choice, I looked at a couple those at the local dealership and they have an option shag pile carpeting circle in the middle of the dash board, interesting. IMHO the Kia Soul is nicer in that segment, and I love my Patriot (of course the AWD on it is nice)

[Black5thgen]

If it's not a DD then there no reason for a sedan. Also if money is an issue like you stated then the SS is the way to go. You do not get what you pay for in the SRT-8. The widest tire available is a 245, C'mon chrysler. The SS has better build quality and is a little more compact but the benefit to that is weight savings. Once again size doesn't matter because it won't be a DD. I don't care what the Chally guys claim, the SS is faster and handles better for a much more reasonable price.

[Stew]

Originally Posted by Black5thgen

If it's not a DD then there no reason for a sedan. Also if money is an issue like you stated then the SS is the way to go. You do not get what you pay for in the SRT-8. The widest tire available is a 245, C'mon chrysler. The SS has better build quality and is a little more compact but the benefit to that is weight savings. Once again size doesn't matter because it won't be a DD. I don't care what the Chally guys claim, the SS is faster and handles better for a much more reasonable price.

Since when does the Camaro have better build quality? I have been in both and IMHO the edge goes to the Challenger. For the amount of room you lose going to the Camaro the slight weight difference is unimpressive (more impressive is that the Mustang is 300 pounds lighter than the Camaro and yet the same size). As for the price, the SRT comes standard with things a fully loaded 2SS at 36k can't even get. And yes, there is a bare bones camaro for 31k, but it is not really comparable to the SRT8 because of everything that comes STANDARD on an SRT8. As for the SS being faster and Handling better, except for a few glory passes at the strip the 2 cars are Basically identical in the quarter mile and handle roughly the same.

[1bad65]

Originally Posted by Stew

Since when does the Camaro have better build quality? I have been in both and IMHO the edge goes to the Challenger.

As for the SS being faster and Handling better, except for a few glory passes at the strip the 2 cars are Basically identical in the quarter mile and handle roughly the same.

Oh geez, not this again. You are a Dodge fanboy, but you have to face reality.

The Camaro SS is faster than the SRT. Period. Every independant test agrees on this.

As to build quality, look at the Challenger issues/recalls so far, and I got most of these off of a Challenger forum! #7 cylinder misfire (a factory recall), headliner issues, cars leaving the factory without a front spindle nut (a factory recall), catch can/oil pressure issues, etc. Sure, the Camaro had the battery and tranny issues, but those have been resolved already. This spindle nut issue was just addressed by Chrysler THIS MONTH! And it affects Challengers from 2008!

And don't take my word on quality, pick ANY independant party and see where GM and Chrysler rank on quality. Good luck finding even one that has Chrysler ranked higher....

[Stew]

Originally Posted by 1bad65

Oh geez, not this again. You are a Dodge fanboy, but you have to face reality.

The Camaro SS is faster than the SRT. Period. Every independant test agrees on this.

As to build quality, look at the Challenger issues/recalls so far, and I got most of these off of a Challenger forum! #7 cylinder misfire (a factory recall), headliner issues, cars leaving the factory without a front spindle nut (a factory recall), catch can/oil pressure issues, etc. Sure, the Camaro had the battery and tranny issues, but those have been resolved already. This spindle nut issue was just addressed by Chrysler THIS MONTH! And it affects Challengers from 2008!

And don't take my word on quality, pick ANY independant party and see where GM and Chrysler rank on quality. Good luck finding even one that has Chrysler ranked higher....

Oh boy, here you go, not that I am a Chrysler fanboy, you'll find posts where I stand up for both the Camaro and Mustang also bud. THe fact is you go to the track and between the SRT8 and SS it IS going to be a drivers race. The Camaro has it's fair share of issues, there a recall basically as soon as it came out for electrical issues and what about the tailshaft issues on the 6 speeds? Remember, it has only been out half as long as the Challenger. Also by build quality I believe that refers to how the panels line up, interior quality, materials, etc, and that was what I was referring to anyway. And this will be my only post back to you as I am not getting into one of your pissing matches.

[All-Or-Nothing]

Originally Posted by 1bad65

Oh geez, not this again. You are a Dodge fanboy, but you have to face reality.

The Camaro SS is faster than the SRT. Period. Every independant test agrees on this.

As to build quality, look at the Challenger issues/recalls so far, and I got most of these off of a Challenger forum! #7 cylinder misfire (a factory recall), headliner issues, cars leaving the factory without a front spindle nut (a factory recall), catch can/oil pressure issues, etc. Sure, the Camaro had the battery and tranny issues, but those have been resolved already. This spindle nut issue was just addressed by Chrysler THIS MONTH! And it affects Challengers from 2008!

And don't take my word on quality, pick ANY independant party and see where GM and Chrysler rank on quality. Good luck finding even one that has Chrysler ranked higher....

How does a car with no spindle nut make it almost 2 years without the tire falling off, much less out the factory. Something doesn't seem right about that claim.

Also the Camaro is not immune to quality issues. There are a bunch of threads on this forum with all kinds of common issues. Sad part is you will get flamed if you ask about any of them.

[1bad65]

Originally Posted by All-Or-Nothing

How does a car with no spindle nut make it almost 2 years without the tire falling off, much less out the factory. Something doesn't seem right about that claim.

Also the Camaro is not immune to quality issues. There are a bunch of threads on this forum with all kinds of common issues. Sad part is you will get flamed if you ask about any of them.

It's not a claim, it came straight from Chrysler. Here is a link about the recall:
http://www.newsday.com/classifieds/c...eels-1.1562480

You may get flamed, but at least you don't get banned for asking like I've seen happen on Challenger sites.

[1bad65]

Originally Posted by Stew

And this will be my only post back to you as I am not getting into one of your pissing matches.

Wow, you Dodge fanboys are the same; all talk and no action.

I just asked for ONE test that showed the SRT being faster, and one independant party saying Chrysler has better build quality than GM. How is that a pissing match? It's you being asked to back up your claims, and it's you refusing to do so. Just like the old saying goes, your silence speaks volumes.

[All-Or-Nothing]

Originally Posted by 1bad65

It's not a claim, it came straight from Chrysler. Here is a link about the recall:
http://www.newsday.com/classifieds/c...eels-1.1562480

You may get flamed, but at least you don't get banned for asking like I've seen happen on Challenger sites.

I didn't mean you made it up. It is just hard for me to believe that a car could ride around that long without a spindle nut.

[Stew]

Originally Posted by 1bad65

Wow, you Dodge fanboys are the same; all talk and no action.

I just asked for ONE test that showed the SRT being faster, and one independant party saying Chrysler has better build quality than GM. How is that a pissing match? It's you being asked to back up your claims, and it's you refusing to do so. Just like the old saying goes, your silence speaks volumes.

All of the tests I am aware of have been been against the R/T. And I am not talking rag times, take the 2 cars to track and it is going to be a drivers race, plain and simple. I see what your problem is now, you think I am all mopar and you are sour because ou got banned from a Challenger website, well guess what, I am not, I like all 3 pony cars, but will probably end up waiting to get an SVT Raptor (yeah I know, but I am inlove with that trucks and have some great places around here to put it through it's paces

[AZ MSCL]

Oh geez, not this again. You are a Dodge fanboy, but you have to face reality.

I'm a fanboy and no, I don't have to face reality, I can face any which way I want. I'm facing South at the moment.

The Camaro SS is faster than the SRT. Period. Every independant test agrees on this.

I did an independent test and found my RT was faster than a speeding bullet, stronger than a locomotive and can leap tall mountains in a single bound.

As to build quality, look at the Challenger issues/recalls so far, and I got most of these off of a Challenger forum! #7 cylinder misfire (a factory recall), headliner issues, cars leaving the factory without a front spindle nut (a factory recall), catch can/oil pressure issues, etc. Sure, the Camaro had the battery and tranny issues, but those have been resolved already. This spindle nut issue was just addressed by Chrysler THIS MONTH! And it affects Challengers from 2008!

My Challenger has every issue/recall you listed (never got it fixed), is disassembled with four flat tires and it will still beat an SS if shot out of a cannon.

And don't take my word on quality, pick ANY independant party and see where GM and Chrysler rank on quality. Good luck finding even one that has Chrysler ranked higher....[/QUOTE]

I will take your word on quality, along with every muscle mag ever written (see attached article). After seconds of searching, I did find an independent party, at my neighbor's house. He's got beer, women and good music. And some independent drunk chick said she liked my Challenger WAAAYYYY more than the Camaro parked next to it (it was actually a Silverado but who cares). I think she was high too, so, CHRYSLER WINS!!!!!