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mjf6866 · 11-16-2009, 03:37 PM

wow, its like tip-toeing around land minds here. thread was goin smooth, goin smooth, amicable chatter, then BAM!...some guys get labeled "fanboys" for dare saying that a challenger can beat another car in the real world.

didnt realize that challenger site has spawned such passionate hatred! especially against any of us dodge boys that dare say anything nice about our own cars. i would consider myself a dodge boy, but i like what the competition has too. guys relax a little

AZ MSCL · 11-16-2009, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by chappy48

I'm guessing she likes the blocky, blingy, futuristic looking vehicles (Flex, Cube, Scion xB, Honda Element etc...). To each there own. What about roadsters? Like a Miata, Saturn Skyy, Honda S2000 or Solstice? Those are "cool". But she wouldn't be able to drive many friends around. But, wind in your hair, with the top down on a twisty road...can't beat that.

You are correct. Blocky, blingy and futuristic. Maybe it's the TV commercials. She can buy a convertible when she can afford one. At least she's not in love with Ferrari's.

1bad65 · 11-16-2009, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by All-Or-Nothing

I didn't mean you made it up. It is just hard for me to believe that a car could ride around that long without a spindle nut.

What's even harder to believe is that cars without a spindle nut made it out of the factory. That's flat-out scary.

AZ MSCL · 11-16-2009, 04:00 PM

We don't need no stinking spindle nut - I've been driving mine since April without one and it works just fine. Do they cost extra? Maybe that'll be my next mod!

1bad65 · 11-16-2009, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Stew

And I am not talking rag times, take the 2 cars to track and it is going to be a drivers race, plain and simple. I see what your problem is now, you think I am all mopar and you are sour because ou got banned from a Challenger website, ....

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Originally Posted by mjf6866

wow, its like tip-toeing around land minds here. thread was goin smooth, goin smooth, amicable chatter, then BAM!...some guys get labeled "fanboys" for dare saying that a challenger can beat another car in the real world.

I have seen Challengers at the track, an SRT and an RT running slicks. Neither could break 14.0! And no, I'm not saying they are that slow. The mags are genrally pretty accurate with the 1/4 mile tests, the only people who complain are fanboys who can't accept their car wasn't the fastest. Show me one independant test that says with equal drivers the SRT is faster. Just one.

As for it being a driver's race, most races are. But it drives me nuts that Challenger guys can't just accept that with equal drivers, their car is slower than a Camaro SS.

As for getting banned, I think it's funny. Considering the fact that I got banned for challenging them to meet me and some Stang guys at the track so we could shoot video and post the results no matter who won, I think it shows who is just running their mouths and refusing to back it up.

1bad65 · 11-16-2009, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by rham48

We don't need no stinking spindle nut - I've been driving mine since April without one and it works just fine. Do they cost extra? Maybe that'll be my next mod!

All joking aside, I'd at least take it in to the dealer if you got a recall notice.

My car has so far been recall free, but if I got a recall letter I'd sure as heck bring it in.

AZ MSCL · 11-16-2009, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 1bad65

I have seen Challengers at the track, an SRT and an RT running slicks. Neither could break 14.0! And no, I'm not saying they are that slow. The mags are genrally pretty accurate with the 1/4 mile tests, the only people who complain are fanboys who can't accept their car wasn't the fastest. Show me one independant test that says with equal drivers the SRT is faster. Just one.

As for it being a driver's race, most races are. But it drives me nuts that Challenger guys can't just accept that with equal drivers, their car is slower than a Camaro SS.

As for getting banned, I think it's funny. Considering the fact that I got banned for challenging them to meet me and some Stang guys at the track so we could shoot video and post the results no matter who won, I think it shows who is just running their mouths and refusing to back it up.

Didn't you see my independent test above?

AZ MSCL · 11-16-2009, 04:12 PM

1bad65, I think we've been abandoned... Hey look at that, 140 posts!

1bad65 · 11-16-2009, 04:20 PM

I have 212.

AZ MSCL · 11-16-2009, 04:38 PM

What do you think my daughter should drive for a first car? No muscle cars or convertibles.

KoTToN · 11-16-2009, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by rham48

What do you think my daughter should drive for a first car? No muscle cars or convertibles.

mjf6866 · 11-16-2009, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1bad65

I have seen Challengers at the track, an SRT and an RT running slicks. Neither could break 14.0! And no, I'm not saying they are that slow. The mags are genrally pretty accurate with the 1/4 mile tests, the only people who complain are fanboys who can't accept their car wasn't the fastest. Show me one independant test that says with equal drivers the SRT is faster. Just one.

As for it being a driver's race, most races are. But it drives me nuts that Challenger guys can't just accept that with equal drivers, their car is slower than a Camaro SS.

As for getting banned, I think it's funny. Considering the fact that I got banned for challenging them to meet me and some Stang guys at the track so we could shoot video and post the results no matter who won, I think it shows who is just running their mouths and refusing to back it up.

i'm not disputing the fact that the SS is faster than the SRT out of the box. i've never posted that in this thread or any other ones. there is no doubt there from me. what i'm saying is the margin is close enough that with different drivers out there anyone can win. that goes for the mustang too. i dont know why some people cant grasp that. in the real world, driver skill will determine the outcome of races before the car will(unless you put a stock civic against a gt500

). that is especially true when the cars are posting numbers withing a few tenths(mustang/camaro/challenger).

i wont take a magazine article to heart until they can develope cyborgs to drive the cars that are created exactly the same with the same driving skill sets THEN put the cars head to head....ok, i'm gettin over my head there, but i'm sure ya get the point

1bad65 · 11-16-2009, 05:43 PM

I agree with that last post mjf.

But people have to accept that certain cars are faster than others. Yes, if they are close it's a driver's race. That's the fun in racing.

But if you take two cars that are stock and one is faster, the faster car will ALWAYS win IF it's driver drives it to it's full potential, no matter how good the driver in the slower car is.

I've beaten cars faster than mine, and lost to cars slower than mine. But I freely admit that 5th Gen Camaros and Challenger SRTs are faster than S197s, stock vs stock.

1bad65 · 11-16-2009, 05:46 PM

Rham, I agree with Kotton. lol

Seriously, getting a new driver an SUV is not a bad idea. They are roomy, and most importantly, the safest cars to be in if (God forbid) she has an accident.

11-16-2009, 03:37 PM	#71
mjf6866 Drives: 09 Challenger R/T 6-speed 3.92 rear Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: sitting on an angry chair with angry walls that steal the air Posts: 423	wow, its like tip-toeing around land minds here. thread was goin smooth, goin smooth, amicable chatter, then BAM!...some guys get labeled "fanboys" for dare saying that a challenger can beat another car in the real world. didnt realize that challenger site has spawned such passionate hatred! especially against any of us dodge boys that dare say anything nice about our own cars. i would consider myself a dodge boy, but i like what the competition has too. guys relax a little __________________ a few mods: -180* Jet t-stat -Amsoil Eaa drop in filter -HopNot total package -275/50-17 M&H drag radials on mustang cobra r's for track days future mods: -hurst shifter -exhaust -custom tune -driver mod

11-16-2009, 04:00 PM	#74
AZ MSCL Drives: 2009 Challenger RT, 2010 Mustang GT Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 719	We don't need no stinking spindle nut - I've been driving mine since April without one and it works just fine. Do they cost extra? Maybe that'll be my next mod! __________________ AZ MSCL: 2009 Challenger RT, 2010 Mustang GT Premium.

11-16-2009, 04:12 PM	#78
AZ MSCL Drives: 2009 Challenger RT, 2010 Mustang GT Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 719	1bad65, I think we've been abandoned... Hey look at that, 140 posts! __________________ AZ MSCL: 2009 Challenger RT, 2010 Mustang GT Premium.

11-16-2009, 04:38 PM	#80
AZ MSCL Drives: 2009 Challenger RT, 2010 Mustang GT Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 719	What do you think my daughter should drive for a first car? No muscle cars or convertibles. __________________ AZ MSCL: 2009 Challenger RT, 2010 Mustang GT Premium.

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11-16-2009, 04:20 PM	#79
1bad65 Banned Drives: 2007 Mustang GT Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Austin Posts: 1,148	I have 212.

11-16-2009, 05:43 PM	#83
1bad65 Banned Drives: 2007 Mustang GT Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Austin Posts: 1,148	I agree with that last post mjf. But people have to accept that certain cars are faster than others. Yes, if they are close it's a driver's race. That's the fun in racing. But if you take two cars that are stock and one is faster, the faster car will ALWAYS win IF it's driver drives it to it's full potential, no matter how good the driver in the slower car is. I've beaten cars faster than mine, and lost to cars slower than mine. But I freely admit that 5th Gen Camaros and Challenger SRTs are faster than S197s, stock vs stock.

11-16-2009, 05:46 PM	#84
1bad65 Banned Drives: 2007 Mustang GT Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Austin Posts: 1,148	Rham, I agree with Kotton. lol Seriously, getting a new driver an SUV is not a bad idea. They are roomy, and most importantly, the safest cars to be in if (God forbid) she has an accident.