Bob Lutz interview

[Angrybird 12]

Originally Posted by jsenn

I don't think he completely shot it down, he was saying, IMO, that he wants to give it to you, but the government might make that impossible.

Lets just Say that the possibility looks a little darker that previously thought... everybody better pray we find a gazillion barrels of oil somewhere closeby.....

[GTAHVIT]

Originally Posted by Vash

Also there is nothing stopping an owner from making a custom Z28. Just get some custom paint or stripes and some Z28 stickers. Toss some custom wheels on it. Paint the calipers. LED kit. Some fuzzy dice. Then it's the home rolled Z28.

GRRRRRRR...

I am completely aware that I can duplicate a Z28. But only Chevy can make one. If they feel it will sell and not kill them on CAFE requirements then they will do it. Maybe it will be more a GT car instead of a blown beast. I'm cool with that.

Here's what he said:

Well there certainly has been a de-emphasis because of the fuel economy rules

AGgh! What I really want to know is: Yes or No.

Here I sit a huge fan of a historical car. Waiting patiently for some confirmation on the Z28's future. I am such an understanding fan that if the Z28 is killed, I will completely understand. GM's survival is first ahead of a few consumers that want a special edition car.

But in the meantime, I've got my F'n halter top, skirt and pom poms out trying to be a cheer leader for the car I want. While sifting through the all the BS and subjective predictictions that it's dead for sure, or not at the start of production or this latest "de-emphasis" statement.

Ms. Pilcher, Mr. Lutz, Peper, Welburn and Settlemire,

With all due respect to all of you, Here's how I see it. If I'm a Z28 fan I'm not likely in the market for a V6 Camaro. I understand that you need the V6 to be a huge success. Of which I am in complete agreement with and wholeheartedly rooting for. But it's not for me. And arguably not for any one who is holding out for a Z28. So it seems logical that If I can't have a Z28, I'm going to get an SS and look to aftermarket to create the car I want. Again, Not a complaint. I'm also willing to concede that the Z28 or bust crowd is relatively small when compared to the entire Camaro market. And our wishes shouldn't be placed ahead of anyone else.

In all honesty I'm a little embarrassed that this car means so much to me. I'm only asking that you put me out of my misery. Or at least ease my pain. The Z28 doesn't have to have blown LSA. I'd love it to be a GT car like the Gen one. Not that the SS isn't already that and then some.

In this day and age I can rationalize that a Z28 may be irresponsible, unpopular, unnecessary and economically prohibited. If that is the decision of GM then let my dream die a peaceful death, and I will let everyone, that wants to, give me a big face full of "I told you so." If the dream is alive please give us something to hold on to. Anything. Something as simple as "We will announce the future of the Z28 one year after SORP." I am fully aware that should the limited number of Z28 fans not buy a Camaro, it will have almost no impact to global sales. More so, if I buy an SS blind to the future of the Z28, and it is eventually produced, my anger will again be less than a drop in the bucket.

So my conclusion is there must be some risk to announcing anything further regarding the Z28. It could be showing your hand to the competition. It could be finicky consumers may not buy at all if they know a Z28 is on the horizon. The Z28 could draw consumers away from other high performance cars already in production. And the obvious, it could be a complete market place flop.

The Z28 lovers may not be a big enough voice to sway GM decisions. And, in reference to Mr. Lutz's recent interview, our wishes move against compliance with government regulations.

In light of all of this I can only objectively ask that you realize we are in the trenches, "keeping the faith," defending the dream of what could be the greatest muscle car ever created. That thought is so real I can almost touch it, see it, sit in it, drive it, hear it and most importantly feel it.

Another Camaro Z28. I sincerely hope it isn't too good to be true. But, I will understand if it is.

With respect,

Chris

[radz28]

Originally Posted by Skyman 08

Lets just Say that the possibility looks a little darker that previously thought... everybody better pray we find a gazillion barrels of oil somewhere closeby.....

As much as I am opposite an optimist, I am constantly fighting to keep the faith. There is so much at stake, and against a hi-po Camaro but, until I here from him otherwise, that's what I'll do.


Chris -

I simple (confirmed and definate) yea or nea (?sp?) will suffice...

[racedad70]

Originally Posted by gtahvit

GRRRRRRR...

I am completely aware that I can duplicate a Z28. But only Chevy can make one. If they feel it will sell and not kill them on CAFE requirements then they will do it. Maybe it will be more a GT car instead of a blown beast. I'm cool with that.

Here's what he said:




AGgh! What I really want to know is: Yes or No.

Here I sit a huge fan of a historical car. Waiting patiently for some confirmation on the Z28's future. I am such an understanding fan that if the Z28 is killed, I will completely understand. GM's survival is first ahead of a few consumers that want a special edition car.

But in the meantime, I've got my F'n halter top, skirt and pom poms out trying to be a cheer leader for the car I want. While sifting through the all the BS and subjective predictictions that it's dead for sure, or not at the start of production or this latest "de-emphasis" statement.

Ms. Pilcher, Mr. Lutz, Peper, Welburn and Settlemire,

With all due respect to all of you, Here's how I see it. If I'm a Z28 fan I'm not likely in the market for a V6 Camaro. I understand that you need the V6 to be a huge success. Of which I am in complete agreement with and wholeheartedly rooting for. But it's not for me. And arguably not for any one who is holding out for a Z28. So it seems logical that If I can't have a Z28, I'm going to get an SS and look to aftermarket to create the car I want. Again, Not a complaint. I'm also willing to concede that the Z28 or bust crowd is relatively small when compared to the entire Camaro market. And our wishes shouldn't be placed ahead of anyone else.

In all honesty I'm a little embarrassed that this car means so much to me. I'm only asking that you put me out of my misery. Or at least ease my pain. The Z28 doesn't have to have blown LSA. I'd love it to be a GT car like the Gen one. Not that the SS isn't already that and then some.

In this day and age I can rationalize that a Z28 may be irresponsible, unpopular, unnecessary and economically prohibited. If that is the decision of GM then let my dream die a peaceful death, and I will let everyone, that wants to, give me a big face full of "I told you so." If the dream is alive please give us something to hold on to. Anything. Something as simple as "We will announce the future of the Z28 one year after SORP." I am fully aware that should the limited number of Z28 fans not buy a Camaro, it will have almost no impact to global sales. More so, if I buy an SS blind to the future of the Z28, and it is eventually produced, my anger will again be less than a drop in the bucket.

So my conclusion is there must be some risk to announcing anything further regarding the Z28. It could be showing your hand to the competition. It could be finicky consumers may not buy at all if they know a Z28 is on the horizon. The Z28 could draw consumers away from other high performance cars already in production. And the obvious, it could be a complete market place flop.

The Z28 lovers may not be a big enough voice to sway GM decisions. And, in reference to Mr. Lutz's recent interview, our wishes move against compliance with government regulations.

In light of all of this I can only objectively ask that you realize we are in the trenches, "keeping the faith," defending the dream of what could be the greatest muscle car ever created. That thought is so real I can almost touch it, see it, sit in it, drive it, hear it and most importantly feel it.

Another Camaro Z28. I sincerely hope it isn't too good to be true. But, I will understand if it is.

With respect,

Chris

Well said Chris..... I am new here and have been reading this forum for quite a while now.I for one am going to wait as long there is some hope of the Z or something equivelant. GM,would it be to hard to give a straight answer?

[radz28]

WELCOME. They haven't up to now, and I don't think that's going to change, as much as many of us want to. OH WELL! It's just more time for me to save enough money

[GTAHVIT]

racedad70

Thanks for the support.

And a big Welcome to the site.

Nice Bike!

[AZCamaroFan]

I don't even really care if they build the supercharged or "Z28" version. ( though i miss the name). The SS is going to be so good, i'm not sure there is a point. Yeah, ford makes a shelby, but Chevrolet has the Corvette.

[racedad70]

Thanks for the warm welcome! If not a Z,hope they offer a power up package such as SC,exhaust ect.Just to keep it all GM.:flag2:

[Robert91RS]

Originally Posted by azfan

I don't even really care if they build the supercharged or "Z28" version. ( though i miss the name). The SS is going to be so good, i'm not sure there is a point. Yeah, ford makes a shelby, but Chevrolet has the Corvette.

I understand what you mean by this but if you could afford a 40-45k super Camaro or a 40k vette, what would you choose? I mean no direspect, just making a point.

[Georgie]

super mustang first... but super camaro over corvette also

[The_Blur]

I'd rather get the Corvette over a super Camaro. If I had those kinds of resources, I'd have no problem justifying the flagship car. I'm all about the Camaro, so I'd get one of these first.

[Angrybird 12]

I am not saying the Z28 Will not ever be built, but I think Mr Lutz is saying that just don't get too upset if we have to change plans.. Those that are reading into his interview saying well he never said they wouldn't be making one, on the other hand he never said they will...

With todays climate of uncertain gas prices and who our next president will be and the effect that may have on future economy standards I think it is wise economically to hold off until the waters settle and they can see what direction to set sail in...

You need to stop thinking emotionally and think economics for GM...

[GTAHVIT]

Originally Posted by Skyman 08

I am not saying the Z28 Will not ever be built, but I think Mr Lutz is saying that just don't get too upset if we have to change plans.. Those that are reading into his interview saying well he never said they wouldn't be making one, on the other hand he never said they will...

With todays climate of uncertain gas prices and who our next president will be and the effect that may have on future economy standards I think it is wise economically to hold off until the waters settle and they can see what direction to set sail in...

You need to stop thinking emotionally and think economics for GM...

I agree with all of that. I just want an answer. I also understand I may not get one. So for now I will wait. I'm no better or worse off now than I was before. Nothing's changed.

Not at SORP doesn't mean sometime after after SORP. The Z28 is not dead doesn't meain its alive, and on and on.

I want what's best for GM, Way more important then the Z28.

[rmyers]

Once again, we can thank the politicians in Washington for the BS. CAFE standards brought us the K-CAR...Remember that jewel. Let the market decide! It usually makes the right choice when government gets out the way.