Paddle shifters are very poorly designed

[myold88]

The couple of times I've used the paddle shifter I was able to do it with my eyes closed-
stop wining about everything !.

[Mzodarg]

she leans on me a little harder to go with the A6

I resemble this situation.
Yeah as much as I wanted an M6, I lost out to the li'l Misses. Athough she has only driven it a couple of times- the fact is-she can drive it. nuff said.

The way it is in my houselhold,
Mike

[orlandoguy]

When I suggested you jump in a Malibu, it was not to purchase one (although it is a very nice ride), it was rather to see how the paddles feel versus the tiny buttons featured in the Camaro. Why have +/- levers that do nothing? Bottom line: need to be more horizontal than vertical; exactly how Malibu has it done. And for the kind gent with the MacGyver fix, that was one serious LOL moment due largely to the fact that you actually sound serious. Continue on your "everything is perfect" ways; lemmings the lot of you I say.

[Speedfreak]

Originally Posted by Skyman 08

Suggestion.. For those that think the paddle shifters are too small or hard to operate get you a flat piece of aluminum about 1/8 inch thick, cut it about 4 inches long and curved so it matches the steering wheel curvature... Use 3M automotive tape or Some epoxy and attach them to the existing pads, make sure you have also offset the paddles to a comfortable shifting postition. take a dremel tool and cut off the + and - paddles. Then you will have custom Paddle shifters for the Camaro...

Woud be careful with that. I can see it now. GM voids a guys warranty on his transmission for the "paddle mod"

[speedster]

Originally Posted by DkknightX

This is such an insignificant argument IMO. If you purchased an A6, it is what it is. Paddle shifting is an added bonus; a temporary departure to a manual. It isn't designed to take the place of an M6. I'm going to risk a lot of heat here and make a blanket statement. If you have to complain, not necessarily about purchasing an A6, but about how the paddle shifting works, you probably should have purchased an M6 Camaro. There. I did it. An unreasonably simplified the answer.

A very valid position that most are unwilling to admit.

Originally Posted by Revo1

I'm considering an L99, and thought I might hear some viable feedback when I clicked on this thread... Silly me.

Revo- The main reason for the light level of feedback is that this has been discussed in depth in so many other threads. There is support for both the L99/A6 and the LS3/M6.

Originally Posted by DkknightX

By looking at your car, it doesn't look like an A6 L99 would suit you Revo. Seriously....and THAT is what we call a compliment.

"Tops off, balls OUT; tach up baby- loud and proud!"

Yes, Revo's car looks awesome.

Originally Posted by Revo1

LOL thanks man

As my better half gets more and more into the car, she leans on me a little harder to go with the A6... She wants to cover the extra cost, and help out with a supercharger if we go auto sooo... We'll see how it goes. I'd like to have the M6 and the supercharger, but the jury is still out

Not any knock to you at all, it just depends on what you personally want...and what YOUR jury says...

Originally Posted by Milk 1027

explain

explain.....

you are just making baseless accusations. Explain to me how you think the paddle shifters are poorly designed. Also explain to me how we shoot down threads on the camaro being bad, we usually leave them up untill it becomes stupid bickering and arguing for no reason or if we know the person is just trolling.


So honestly, I'd like to hear your explanation before I make up my mind.

I think he should go to the C5 Fest and see it first hand.

Originally Posted by orlandoguy

When I suggested you jump in a Malibu, it was not to purchase one (although it is a very nice ride), it was rather to see how the paddles feel versus the tiny buttons featured in the Camaro. Why have +/- levers that do nothing? Bottom line: need to be more horizontal than vertical; exactly how Malibu has it done. And for the kind gent with the MacGyver fix, that was one serious LOL moment due largely to the fact that you actually sound serious. Continue on your "everything is perfect" ways; lemmings the lot of you I say.

Just for some data - we did some high performance driving in the Camaro with multiple people with race experience and one who had never driven a paddle shifter before. Keeping your hands on the wheel during extreme maneuvers is a safety issue and the paddles worked well. Are they perfect ? No, everyone has their opinion, but the consensus was very positive.

Lemmings? Actually, if you are truly interested, I invite you to come up to the Camaro 5 Fest at South Georgia Motorsports Park in April. http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46574
Bring the G6. I bet you'd have a good time.

[DkknightX]

Speedster, I agree completely which is why I singled out the Camaro by itself. If you are driving a supercar, it would make sense to have an auto with paddle shifting. Manual shifting would only penalize your reaction time, speed and safety as well. Great points. For the Camaro speedster/dragster, having top of the line paddle shifting on an A6 would definitely be a serious bonus, but this car is marketed to everybody in the $22K-$45K price range, depending on options. GM just made it simple to add just enough engine and transmission selection to "get the job done" and everything else just falls in to place. To create another category for "Enthusiast Automatic L99 Paddle Shifting Performance" in addition to their standard automatic and manual options would just be another headache for GM.

[Angrybird 12]

Originally Posted by Speedfreak

Woud be careful with that. I can see it now. GM voids a guys warranty on his transmission for the "paddle mod"

It dosen't effect how they operate, just how you access the feature.. it does nothing to change the performance of the transmission, so to me it is no different than changing the shifter knob on the manual transmission for better grip.

[TooCool5]

lock her up moderator.

[RedJewelrsss32]

I like mine they work as designed.

[Captain Awesome]

Originally Posted by Skyman 08

It dosen't effect how they operate, just how you access the feature.. it does nothing to change the performance of the transmission, so to me it is no different than changing the shifter knob on the manual transmission for better grip.

This is one of the most sane things ever said on this subject.

It's not a design flaw any more than a matter of taste. If you got a yellow camaro and said it was a design flaw because the car was too bright looking, you'd be in the same boat.

[sickpipe]

Would like to have a shifting feature built in to the main shifter, would give more of that manual feel, sometimes paddles are hard to find when you're cornering, not a design flaw just a feature request

[Angrybird 12]

Originally Posted by sickpipe

Would like to have a shifting feature built in to the main shifter, would give more of that manual feel, sometimes paddles are hard to find when you're cornering, not a design flaw just a feature request

Well to shift with the shifter you have to remove one hand from the wheel reach down and move the shifter anyway, which is not very safe...and whats so hard to slide your hand down to the wheel spoke and push a button? it takes less time and at least you still have both hands on the wheel at all times in case there is a unexpected obstacle in the road around that blind curve.....

I think once you get used to the location of the buttons it will become second nature to you and you won't even think about it, you will just do it...

[THUMPER20X]

Its just the same as +/- shifters on a console. Just a switch in a different spot. Its not really even paddle shifters. F1 level ferraris, paddle shift, Open class rally cars, paddle shift. These are just buttons. It is a cool idea and I drive Lexus/Infinitis with it all the time. Nothing wrong with them. But its not really a paddle shift its an upshift/downshift circuit There is a difference.

[HDDAN]

I like them better than the ones on my 2 gen 4's. Oh wait a minute, they didn't have them and the transmissions were 4 speeds? I still love the fact that the best that can be done to bad mouth my gen 5 is to nitpick. Cup holders, visors, shift buttons and the shark fin. Not blown engines, grenaded transmissions and rear ends.