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*The_Blur* · 09-03-2008, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by 2KZ28_For_Now

I finally thought of a good question!

I haven't seen ANY pics of the gauge-delete console...in other words, whats gonna be there if the gauges arent? just empty space, or more "pluggy thingies?"

I've actually been thinking about that. It looks like there's enough space for a cup holder, but GM could just as easily plug it up.

FenwickHockey65 · 09-03-2008, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by The_Blur

I've actually been thinking about that. It looks like there's enough space for a cup holder, but GM could just as easily plug it up.

I heard it was just going to be a massive storage tray?

BowtieGuy · 09-03-2008, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

I heard it was just going to be a massive storage tray?

Yup.

As far as a torque gauge goes, it may be pointless and neat. But a tranny temp gauge is pointless and pointless. Who is going to be towing anything with their Camaro?!

2KZ28_For_Now · 09-03-2008, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by BowtieGuy

Yup.

As far as a torque gauge goes, it may be pointless and neat. But a tranny temp gauge is pointless and pointless. Who is going to be towing anything with their Camaro?!

Agreed, but offering two different gauge package assemblies (auto vs. manual) would increase production complexity and cost (admittedly minor, but GM is all into saving a buck themselves, and keeping cost down for us, right?)

Maybe the insiders should post a new poll for us to vote on gauge choices and relate that to the powers that be, if it isnt too late (prolly is).

nonsensez9 · 09-03-2008, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by BowtieGuy

Yup.

As far as a torque gauge goes, it may be pointless and neat. But a tranny temp gauge is pointless and pointless. Who is going to be towing anything with their Camaro?!

I was at a road-race training course for a weekend this past summer. One of the students brought an automatic Camaro. He had issues with the tranny by the end of the weekend. I don't know if it was heat related, just thought I'd mention it.

stovt001 · 09-03-2008, 01:59 AM

Think about it this way: As they are positioned now, you clearly can't look at the gauges while the car is moving. You can only check it while stopped. Now this isn't as much of a problem with temp gauges as the car doesn't immediately cool upon stopping. However, when the car stops, where does the torque gauge go? To zero. Every time. How a gauge that reads zero every time you can look at it is "neat" is beyond me. I'd rather GM just put the gauges in a useful place and turned that area into a nice coin/id holder. The ergonomics of that gauge pack were screwed up in the 1960s. It is still screwed up today. Why you would pick a problem area to glorify in a "heritage" tribute is beyond me.

Vash · 09-03-2008, 02:18 AM

I think it's too late to move them up. They need to make sure, and probably already have done it. To put a "check gauge" idiot light on the main center panel. The tranny temp is much more imporant after warranty and the vehicle get's older. I am not sure but if they do it like Corvette they will run (for the auto) a tranny fluid line into the radiator for some cooling. Correct me if wrong on that.

MLL67RSSS · 09-03-2008, 07:18 AM

Well they may have had to do away with it due to possible patent infringment. A teen and his dad came up with a torque guage for his Mustang because he was tired of the inconvenience and cost to dyno his car every time he changed something. They have been awarded a provisional patent.

http://www.motortrend.com/features/e...gue/index.html

As for the console gauges and those that think they are unusable while driving I must disagree. My '67 has them and it takes me no more time to avert my eyes down for a quick scan of them than it does to glance at the speedometer or tach.

Black5thgen · 09-03-2008, 08:31 AM

I wanted a fuel pressure gauge, much more useful.

linkwpc · 09-03-2008, 08:33 AM

I think it would be much more "useful" if you can see your Torque number on the HUD.

*GTAHVIT* · 09-03-2008, 08:37 AM

^

I like that idea.

Txturbo · 09-03-2008, 09:22 AM

I would trade it all for the GM reconfigurable performance display.

Sizzox · 09-03-2008, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Txturbo

I would trade it all for the GM reconfigurable performance display.

Me to.

Shifty 6 · 09-03-2008, 10:28 AM

Maybe I'm not that smart, but I didn't think a trans temp gauge in a manual would be that useful. I can't imagine someone looking down long enough to do an indepth study of the gauge while driving. It should just be a glance, then process where the needles are.

09-03-2008, 01:59 AM	#20
stovt001 Drives: 2006 Cobalt, 2004 Taurus wagon Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: California Posts: 3,810	Think about it this way: As they are positioned now, you clearly can't look at the gauges while the car is moving. You can only check it while stopped. Now this isn't as much of a problem with temp gauges as the car doesn't immediately cool upon stopping. However, when the car stops, where does the torque gauge go? To zero. Every time. How a gauge that reads zero every time you can look at it is "neat" is beyond me. I'd rather GM just put the gauges in a useful place and turned that area into a nice coin/id holder. The ergonomics of that gauge pack were screwed up in the 1960s. It is still screwed up today. Why you would pick a problem area to glorify in a "heritage" tribute is beyond me. __________________ "It's kind of fun to do the impossible" - Walt Disney There's a great big beautiful tomorrow shining at the end of every day There's a great big beautiful tomorrow Just a dream away

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09-03-2008, 02:18 AM	#21
Vash Drives: 00 Blazer Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 5,100	I think it's too late to move them up. They need to make sure, and probably already have done it. To put a "check gauge" idiot light on the main center panel. The tranny temp is much more imporant after warranty and the vehicle get's older. I am not sure but if they do it like Corvette they will run (for the auto) a tranny fluid line into the radiator for some cooling. Correct me if wrong on that.

09-03-2008, 07:18 AM	#22
MLL67RSSS Account Suspended Drives: car Join Date: May 2008 Location: location Posts: 1,569	Well they may have had to do away with it due to possible patent infringment. A teen and his dad came up with a torque guage for his Mustang because he was tired of the inconvenience and cost to dyno his car every time he changed something. They have been awarded a provisional patent. http://www.motortrend.com/features/e...gue/index.html As for the console gauges and those that think they are unusable while driving I must disagree. My '67 has them and it takes me no more time to avert my eyes down for a quick scan of them than it does to glance at the speedometer or tach.

09-03-2008, 08:31 AM	#23
Black5thgen Account Suspended Drives: 2007 C6 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: chicago Posts: 2,251 View My Garage	I wanted a fuel pressure gauge, much more useful.

09-03-2008, 08:33 AM	#24
linkwpc The punching cat Drives: '10 Camaro SS Black W/Hugger&W/IOI Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Torrance, CA Posts: 4,048 View My Garage	I think it would be much more "useful" if you can see your Torque number on the HUD.

09-03-2008, 10:28 AM	#28
Shifty 6 Drives: 2010 GTI Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Morton, IL Posts: 679	Maybe I'm not that smart, but I didn't think a trans temp gauge in a manual would be that useful. I can't imagine someone looking down long enough to do an indepth study of the gauge while driving. It should just be a glance, then process where the needles are.