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POWERFREAK · 12-04-2009, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by CharleyKahleys

you can also get a tune there not to much there around $500-$650 and if ur in los angeles i can get u a tune for $500 give's you +50 HP

ah-ha...sure you can.

Dave Coyle · 12-04-2009, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by CamaroFemme

IIRC: Reprogramming your computer to make better use of your engine. The '10 Camaro is already finished so well that tunes for it are only getting like 6-20 horsepower. Also a quick, immediate way to void your warranty.

Yes, a tune will void your warranty on your engine, trans and rear axle, but that is it and yes, you may only pick up 20 more horse at the rear tires but where you get the best of a tune is in the lower RPM range where you will see more like 30 to 40 more horse and you can tune out the torque management in the trans that will really "wake up" your take off!!!

CynAgain · 12-04-2009, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Booster

What about changing gearing? Does anyone make a 3.7x gear for the Camaro yet? Can you get one dealer installed?

no gears yet that I know of but if you hear anything make sure to tell me! This is high on my list.

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Originally Posted by Dave Coyle

Check out Livernois Motorsports, they are right in your area. They do almost everything. You won't be sorry.

x eleventy billion

Livernois in Dearborn Hts. Rick and Andy are on this forum too.

Livernois

CamaroFemme · 12-04-2009, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Coyle

Yes, a tune will void your warranty on your engine, trans and rear axle, but that is it

Yeah, JUST your engine, trans and rear axle.

Dave Coyle · 12-04-2009, 01:57 PM

I just realized you have a stick so the torque management is not a problem for you how ever the void warranty on the trans is. Sticks have had problems with the output shafts so stay away from a tune!!!! That is where us with the 6A have an advantage over you guys!!!! Autos are much easier on everything and we can make more power down low and don't have to worry about the warrany issue due to the fact that Chevy has build a GREAT DRIVE TRAIN!!!!

CynAgain · 12-04-2009, 02:00 PM

Nah, he hasn't taken delivery yet. The output shaft problem (until proven differently) was an issue for early production cars. His shaft should be fine.

wait... that just sounds wrong

Dave Coyle · 12-04-2009, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by bpoirier

A CAI is a Cold Air Intake. It replaces the stock one. ADM and Rotofab are maker of these products. There are many out there. I have one from ADM Performance. It looks and works great. I also installed a 3" magnaflow catback exhaust. It sounds way better than stock. I have also heard SLP Loudmouth II axle back and it sounds nice too. It is much cheaper than the full catback. There is nolag with a supercharger. They are belt driven off of the crankshaft. As it stands right now there are no replacement gears available. I'm waiting for those as well. Hope this helps answer some of your questions.

THIS WILL MOST LIKELY BE YOUR BEST BET AND MAKE SURE YOU RUN THE BEST PREMIUM FUEL YOU CAN AND MAKE SURE YOUR DEALER FILLS IT WITH PREMIUM. ANOTHER THING IS AFTER A FEW MILES IS ON HER, DO THE FUSE PULL ON #5 AND #20, THIS HAS HELPED BOTH AUTO AND STICKS.

Dave Coyle · 12-04-2009, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by CynAgain

Nah, he hasn't taken delivery yet. The output shaft problem (until proven differently) was an issue for early production cars. His shaft should be fine.

wait... that just sounds wrong

ONLY HE WOULD KNOW.

POWERFREAK · 12-04-2009, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Coyle

I just realized you have a stick so the torque management is not a problem for you how ever the void warranty on the trans is. Sticks have had problems with the output shafts so stay away from a tune!!!! That is where us with the 6A have an advantage over you guys!!!! Autos are much easier on everything and we can make more power down low and don't have to worry about the warrany issue due to the fact that Chevy has build a GREAT DRIVE TRAIN!!!!

So much mis-information, gonna confuse this poor newbie...M6's have torque management too. The output shaft problem is an issue, but as far as I can tell from the cases reported here, is that all the breakages were on vin#'s before this first became in issue (under 26,xxx vin #'s).

ALSO...3.70's are available now from Lingenfelter...and Richmond is coming out with 4.10's and 3.70's this month.

A tune in an M6 probably isn't worth doing by itself if you don't plan on any other mods and you are worried about your drivetrain warranty...but since you're talking about adding Cam, headers, gears, possible supercharger etc...you're gonna need a tune anyway (plus your drivetrain warranty is done anyway at this point). As long as your car is tuned by someone who knows what he's doing, it's not gonna directly heart anything and your car will run much better.

Abygale · 12-04-2009, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by POWERFREAK

So much mis-information, gonna confuse this poor newbie...M6's have torque management too. The output shaft problem is an issue, but as far as I can tell from the cases reported here, is that all the breakages were on vin#'s before this first became in issue (under 26 vin #'s).

ALSO...3.70's are available now from Lingenfelter...and Richmond is coming out with 4.10's and 3.70's this month.

A tune in an M6 probably isn't worth doing by itself...but since you're talking about adding Cam, headers, possible supercharger etc...you're gonna need a tune anyway (plus you drivetrain warranty is done anyway at this point)

....and people keep forgetting, reputable supercharger manufacturers and the installers thereof, usually provide a powertrain warranty similar to the powertrain warranty provided by GM.

CynAgain · 12-04-2009, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by POWERFREAK

So much mis-information, gonna confuse this poor newbie...M6's have torque management too. The output shaft problem is an issue, but as far as I can tell from the cases reported here, is that all the breakages were on vin#'s before this first became in issue (under 26 vin #'s).

ALSO...3.70's are available now from Lingenfelter...and Richmond is coming out with 4.10's and 3.70's this month.

A tune in an M6 probably isn't worth doing by itself...but since you're talking about adding Cam, headers, possible supercharger etc...you're gonna need a tune anyway (plus your drivetrain warranty is done anyway at this point)

Thanks for the info

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Originally Posted by Abygale

....and people keep forgetting, reputable supercharger manufacturers and the installers thereof, usually provide a powertrain warranty similar to the powertrain warranty provided by GM.

Rick did mention this when I was at Livernois. I forgot too. Thanks Aby

MoranoRacing · 12-04-2009, 02:45 PM

I would suggest starting out with a cold air intake kit. Roto-fab, G5CR, Hennessey, etc are all great products.

The next thing would be to get a nice sounding exhaust. SLP makes great sounding kits.

Those are probably the 2 most popular bolt ons to start with. Good Luck!

chappy48 · 12-04-2009, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ************

I would suggest starting out with a cold air intake kit. Roto-fab, G5CR, Hennessey, etc are all great products.

The next thing would be to get a nice sounding exhaust. SLP makes great sounding kits.

Those are probably the 2 most popular bolt ons to start with. Good Luck!

I agree with everything, except for the Hennessey makes a great Cold Air Intake.

It's been proven to...now how should I put this...suck.

SGOS252382 · 12-04-2009, 04:14 PM

I would definately start with a good CAI, Long tube headers, and a tune. Those mods make a real noticeable increase in power and they make your car sound like a real muscle car.
See how you like that setup for a while.

Then you can look into a nice cam package if you want to add another
50rwhp or so.

12-04-2009, 01:57 PM	#19
Dave Coyle Drives: 2010 SS , 1970 Z-28, 2002 Avalanche Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Michigan Posts: 2,524 View My Garage	OOPS I just realized you have a stick so the torque management is not a problem for you how ever the void warranty on the trans is. Sticks have had problems with the output shafts so stay away from a tune!!!! That is where us with the 6A have an advantage over you guys!!!! Autos are much easier on everything and we can make more power down low and don't have to worry about the warrany issue due to the fact that Chevy has build a GREAT DRIVE TRAIN!!!!

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12-04-2009, 02:00 PM	#20
CynAgain Drives: Chevy Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: USA Posts: 6,534	Nah, he hasn't taken delivery yet. The output shaft problem (until proven differently) was an issue for early production cars. His shaft should be fine. wait... that just sounds wrong

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MoranoRacing Account Suspended Drives: 2005 GTO, 1973 Camaro Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Westchester Posts: 460	I would suggest starting out with a cold air intake kit. Roto-fab, G5CR, Hennessey, etc are all great products. The next thing would be to get a nice sounding exhaust. SLP makes great sounding kits. Those are probably the 2 most popular bolt ons to start with. Good Luck!

12-04-2009, 04:14 PM	#28
SGOS252382 Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: S.W. Florida Posts: 6,294	I would definately start with a good CAI, Long tube headers, and a tune. Those mods make a real noticeable increase in power and they make your car sound like a real muscle car. See how you like that setup for a while. Then you can look into a nice cam package if you want to add another 50rwhp or so.